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What radiator fans do you use with your bigger turbos?

4.4K views 22 replies 11 participants last post by  Marshall Taylor  
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Hey everyone, it's been a while since my last post. I was having idle issues, now I have a few other issues. Car idles great, but when I try to drive it sputters. It will still go, just makes a lot of weird noise and you can feel the vibration like mad, no additional knock though and no check engine lights. But that's a side issue that if you have any ideas, I'd appreciate some other impute. For this post, my main question is what radiator fans are people using with their bigger turbos? I bought the Kinugawa 19T-HL kit from their website (full kit with the larger exhaust side and all) and the install went well, except for one fairly large issue, that being the stock radiator fan wouldn't fit. I bought a couple cheap universal ones to hold me over (a 12" and a 9" for the AC side), and the wastegate that comes with the turbos rests on part of the metal for the fan, but hasn't seemed to cause any real issues. I have a stock radiator. I wanted to go a bigger one, for better flow and cooling, but I held off due to the fan issue. Anyone have this problem before? Did you get a different fan set, move the fans to the front (I have a FMIC as well, and functioning AC that I'd like to keep) or get a slim radiator with different fans?
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
For now, I'm stuck in California, and it gets well past 110 during the summer. So heat is a big issue. I'll have to look into those fans, but do you recall about how much space you had mounting them to the front?
 
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I have (2) SPAL fans mounted to an aluminum custom made shroud. The AEM V2 cuts the primary fan on at 185 Degrees F. The secondary fan cuts on at 190 degrees F. I have a PWR Radiator,, FMIC, A/C condenser and a 25 row oil cooler. The fans keep my temperature in the ideal range in 100 degree F weather. Each (2) turbo can move the air for 635 HP. It all depends how far you want to take your car.
Good luck finding your solution.
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking to go about 550-600HP range when all is said and done. Something that's not going to put too much strain on the parts and my wallet lol. Would those fans work with other shrouds? Do you have a picture of your shroud? I'm wondering how it's shaped to avoid hitting the turbo, or if the radiator is thinner so it creates space. Thanks for the info!
 
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I ran a second driver's side A/C fan flipped upside down, bolted into place on the passenger side, and then I wired it in to the stock connector following the thread here: The final "How do i wire my aftermarket radiator.... I did that on my Kinugawa turbos a long time ago but didn't document anything. I just recently did it a year ago on a set of Arashi 20Ts and took pictures of everything. Some of the pictures you can see in the two product for sale threads I have since I used that larger turbo setup to design them. FS: TD04 Pre-Turbo Intake Pipes 2.5". ETS Style Front Under The Turbo Intercooler Pipe Routing...

You should consider some ducting between your intercooler core and front bumper as well as the radiator to intercooler core. This car didn't have any and it's also on a stock radiator. Even with the temperatures outside being near freezing, the car will run at 200 degrees in stop and go traffic. It's on a 190 degree thermostat. I'm assuming when he gets his A/C fixed it'll be even worse for heatsoak. For comparison, my car with the same fans, a 2" aluminum radiator, and 180 degree thermostat usually runs about 175-180 most of the time except in the summer when it'll get closer to 190 but never higher. I'd recommend the upgraded radiator and ducting to help with temps. There's very few aftermarket fans that outflow the stock ones. Derale and SPAL have some that do but you need your own dedicated 30/40 amp relay system because they draw high amps.
when you mention ducting, can you give an example? Some people said that some aluminum sheets cut and bent into shape to angle the flow of air towards the radiator, others say to use ducting from stuff like a dryer to angle air in that direction. Right now, I have a duct that angles air from the bottom towards the intake so it gets more/better cold air while moving, but thats about it, the previous owner did it, but it has been great so far so I haven't gotten rid of it. I just took it around the block to see if I had been able to fix the stuttering, and I noticed the temps hit the 180-190 area with no fans on. Its about 53 f outside though, so I figure that's about normal. My current setup is on a switch in the car, so doing a relay system wouldn't be much different (I have a fuse setup in line, but not a relay). I was just trying to get something going as the stock fans simply wouldn't fit the turbos.
 
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There's no thread on the wastegate mod. I've only seen one person do it and I saved the pics. You need to build a new bracket for the front wastegate and weld it together. You can still see the wastegate meets the flapper at an angle though and will potentially bind up under operation. The 1 o'clock position is about as far as you can clock the front wastegate without building a new bracket but it required bending the rod some to get it to not be as angled. Easiest method if you can't fabricate and weld is to just install a second driver's side fan.
I was just out there and was able to flip and move the bracket that holds the wastegate, and was able to make about an inch or so of space just from that. The bracket they sent has 4 holes so it can be flipped around. I'll have to measure the total space and see if the clearance is enough. If not, i'll try bending the rod and seeing what I can do with making a bracket. If I can get this set up with the stock fans, that would solve the issue (unless they dont turn on due to some other issue lol). I'll have to save these picks so I can check them out later as needed. Thanks!