[Supercar]

Supercar Engineering has select Getrag Synchros available for the AWD Getrag Transmissions:

5-speed AWD transmission:
Synchro Rebuild Kit - 1&2 Gears (two synchros and a seal kit)
Synchro for the 1st or 2nd gear
Synchro for the 3rd or 4th gear
Synchro for the 5th gear
Synchro for the Reverse gear

6-speed AWD transmission:
Synchro Rebuild Kit - 1&2 Gears (two synchros and a seal kit)
Synchro for the 1st or 2nd gear
Synchro for the 3rd or 4th gear (not available)
Synchro for the 5th or 6th gear
Synchro for the Reverse gear

We also have a bunch of other Getrag parts available, including NEW Parts and USED Parts.

If we have any parts, then they are listed. If we do not have them then they are not listed. Thank you.

Philip

 

[BLACK94TT]

Supercar Engineering has select Getrag Synchros available for the AWD Getrag Transmissions:

5-speed AWD transmission:
Synchro Rebuild Kit - 1&2 Gears (two synchros and a seal kit)
Synchro for the 1st or 2nd gear
Synchro for the 3rd or 4th gear
Synchro for the 5th gear
Synchro for the Reverse gear

6-speed AWD transmission:
Synchro Rebuild Kit - 1&2 Gears (two synchros and a seal kit)
Synchro for the 1st or 2nd gear
Synchro for the 3rd or 4th gear (not available)
Synchro for the 5th or 6th gear
Synchro for the Reverse gear

We also have a bunch of other Getrag parts available, including NEW Parts and USED Parts.

If we have any parts, then they are listed. If we do not have them then they are not listed. Thank you.

Philip

Do you think 3rd gear (6speed) syncros will ever become available? My 3rd gear syncro will be the first to fail.

 

[Supercar]

I cannot tell that now. But other vendors might have them. If I get some, I will list them too.

Philip

 

[Bret Brinkmann]

We have some at 3SX. I know we have some used in very good condition. I think we may have them new. If we have them new they will be onthe web site. If you want used parts, then call the parts department and they will get a list of things for me to check for. We usually have any used part in very good condition in stock except for 1st and 2nd gears, the 1/2 hub and sleeve assembly, and the rings. As of now, we have some 1/2 rings (outer, inner, and friction) but they usually go fast and customers must resort to buying the higher priced brand new parts.

I updated the first post to show that SCE carries some used and new parts. I also added that they now carry 18 spline versions of there center LSD and that the shafts are made of 300m.

Updated 3SX stuff to show that they now carry rebuilt VCUs and gave better contact info.

 

[drmbldr]

I need a 1st and 2nd syncro kit for a 2 gen 6 spd + 2 gear, bearings and tranny seals. Add me to the grrrriiiiinnndddddd ping(2nd gear engaged) club.

 

[MightyMouse]

I need a 1st and 2nd syncro kit for a 2 gen 6 spd + 2 gear, bearings and tranny seals. Add me to the grrrriiiiinnndddddd ping(2nd gear engaged) club.

After comparing the part (visually) it looks like SuperCar is selling the Center Blocking Ring as the 1st or 2nd Gear syncro repair.
If that's the case Kormex has them for $80.00..
$80.00 < $119.00


Shop around for the best price.
I used to be able to get these from the people that made them for Getrag for about $45.00 or so..
I posted the location of the place. I'm going to continue searching for it and see if I can pass that along..

 

[Boostaddict]

After comparing the part (visually) it looks like SuperCar is selling the Center Blocking Ring as the 1st or 2nd Gear syncro repair.
If that's the case Kormex has them for $80.00..
$80.00 < $119.00

The SCE 1/2 blocking rings are oem Getrag. The Kormex parts I've seen were not. I'm not saying the Kormex parts are not acceptable, but that might justify a price premium.

 

[MightyMouse]

The SCE 1/2 blocking rings are oem Getrag. The Kormex parts I've seen were not. I'm not saying the Kormex parts are not acceptable, but that might justify a price premium.

That's an acceptable answer to me..
Thanks

 

[Bret Brinkmann]

3SX has the whole set in stock. Granted they are more expensive as a set, but they do price match. Check your inner and outer rings as well. You can usually see smearing of the friction material on them which warrents that they too be replaced to prevent a repeat failure.

 

[KORMEX]

The SCE 1/2 blocking rings are oem Getrag. The Kormex parts I've seen were not. I'm not saying the Kormex parts are not acceptable, but that might justify a price premium.

The picture that SCE has on their website of the blocking rings are the blocking rings that we sell . The same Blocking rings that we sell to All Trans from where SCE buys them. I would normally keep quiet on this sort of thing but , the BS on the board to "compete" has been getting to the point of stupidity.

Frank

 

[Chris @ Rvenge Performance]

The picture that SCE has on their website of the blocking rings are the blocking rings that we sell . The same Blocking rings that we sell to All Trans from where SCE buys them. I would normally keep quiet on this sort of thing but , the BS on the board to "compete" has been getting to the point of stupidity.

Frank

never had a problem with the syncros you sold me Frank! Still holding strong, even to occasional power shifting.

 

[Boostaddict]

Frank,
Every syncro on the SCE website currently are 100% OEM getrag parts (1/2 friction rings and 3/4 5-speed and 5-6 6-speed parts).

The picture that SCE has on their website of the blocking rings are the blocking rings that we sell . The same Blocking rings that we sell to All Trans from where SCE buys them. I would normally keep quiet on this sort of thing but , the BS on the board to "compete" has been getting to the point of stupidity.

Frank

 

[Supercar]

Sorry everyone for all the mess and confusion. The synchros that we are selling now are 100% OEM. In the past we had some aftermarket synchros at a lower price (1/2 gear, but no 3,4,5,6,R gears), which also seemed to work fine. But now they are, 100% original OEM Getrag synchros, for every gear, like our website currently says.

We currently have every synchro in stock for the 6-speed and all but the 5th gear synchro for the 5-speed. We keep our inventory listing current. If you are able to order it on our website, then we have it in stock.

Philip

 

[KORMEX]

Frank,
Every syncro on the SCE website currently are 100% OEM getrag parts (1/2 friction rings and 3/4 5-speed and 5-6 6-speed parts).

So you changed the images (i Haven't checked ) but I did after you posted your BS message and you had my Synchros on the site , I wouldn't lie to you .

good luck
have a nice life

 

[Andre_3000gt]

Hi there,
I want to buy for my friend one detail for Transfer Case:
Input planetary for output shaft. WG5.
Kormex or OEM.
Anyone can help?

 

[Climber]

Has anybody measured the thickness of a new 1/2 synchro blocking ring? Besides a leaking transaxle case, I had a once in a while clunk when shifting from 1st to 2nd. Like the synchro didn't completely slow down the gears, before locking the teeth. No grinding though. Took trans apart and the 1st and 2nd blocking rings look like they still have plenty of friction material on them, but I haven't been able to find measurements to compare with yet. The rings look great. All teeth on the rest of the synchro assembly are fine. The only other thing I noticed was that the springs behind the key&ball are a little loose. Hence no pressure on them when the slider gear is in neutral.
I don't mind just buying new blocking rings and springs even if not needed, but rather make sure that's it, before putting it back together.

Climber

 

[jackhammer]

Hey supercar, why do you reccomend using your old input shaft bearing instead of the replacement you sell?

Because the replacement is expensive, or the replacement sucks?

 

[Bret Brinkmann]

I can't see SCE selling something that they know sucks. People go crazy with replaceing bearings as if they were throw away parts. Unless they are damaged, keep using them. They last for hundreds of thousands of miles with proper maintanence.

Climber - Place all three rings on the gear and see if the outer ring lays flat against the gear. If it does not lay flat against the gear, then it is good. If it does lay flat against the gear, then replace all three rings.

Andre_3000gt - The planetary gears are in the transmission. They are the same for 5 (W5MG1) and 6 speeds (W6MG1). There are no aftermarket planetaries available, only OEM. Try calling the vendors listed on the 1st post of this thread to buy one.

 

[Supercar]

Hey supercar, why do you reccomend using your old input shaft bearing instead of the replacement you sell?

Because the replacement is expensive, or the replacement sucks?

If your old input shaft bearing (with an integrated oil seal) works and does not leak, then use it. Do not replace it with an aftermarket one just because. There are no OEM bearings available. The available aftermarket ones have failed a few times, so I am not keen on selling them. I pulled them off the shelves at one time, but then I had people asking me to sell them to me. So I still have them on my site with a sort of a disclaimer:
Supercar Engineering

If you must fix an oil leak that comes out of that bearing, then your only options are either to find a used OEM or buy a new aftermarket bearing. Take your chances. This is not just my recommendations, I talked to Frank from Kormex about this issue and this is his recommendation too. Actually, I think Frank said that he prefers non-leaky used OEM bearings. But out of a pile of used bearings/seals, how many do you think are still good and how many do you think will leak? Some will still leak, and I think at a much greater rate than the aftermarket ones.

New replacement bearings are not available at any cost, AFAIK. I tried to get Timken/Torrington to quote me these bearings and got a ridiculous estimate of something close to a $100 for a minimum batch of 5,000 pieces. Anyone got half a mil $ somewhere under the mattress to invest? Of course those bearings could also be machined from billet at a price of probably $500 each. If anyone knows better options, I am all ears.

Philip

 

[KORMEX]

my Take on this :

The new aftermarket input bearings are trash , do not use under any circumstance , They will fail and take out the input shaft . Ralliart had the OEM , I don't know if he still does .

If you cant get a new OEM bearing try to find a used one .Otherwise don't assemble your trans until you do .