I have a 92 Dodge Stealth R/T (non-turbo). I have the replacement headlights that fit the 1st generation Stealths/3000 GT pop-up lights with some HIDish looking bulbs in them. The look pretty good and do put some light on the road, but I would like to upgrade to a real HID/Xenon headlight kit ($400-$600). I was wondering how many people with the 91-93 cars have done this and how hard is it to wire? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. :dodge:
JJay
VIN_DIESEL said:
Are both the high and low beam HIDs? I saw a dual (high/low) beam kit on ebay a while ago, sold for around $800 though that's the only one i've seen. Otherwise, wondered how this worked.
Thanks,
G
By the way, just checked out these, look like a good deal: http://www.importhookup.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=106
I have low/beam HID H4 conversion too. Check this online shop- really cheap and i'm totally satisfied
http://www.globalpremier.com
If you have more question you can PM me.
http://www.globalpremier.com
If you have more question you can PM me.
2nd-gen up id give about 10-15 mins tops for a no0b. the longest part of the install is figuring out where to put the parts to make them fit. 1st gens i dont know.JJay said:
Macky said:post pics of ur setup so we can see how you did urs
I will Macky. Some places where I drive I need more light/more Kelvans. I might as well have the cool real Xenon HID look to go with the function now that you can get a good set for $400-$600. What brands do you guys recommend? Catz? any others? :mitsu:
Grrr.... That is one of the misconceptions about HID's that bothers me the most. People selling HID's try to tell you that you no longer need a high beam, because "they are bright enough on their own". However, the real reason that they tell you that is that they can't offer you high beams, so they pretend like you don't need them so that they can make the sale. It's just a lie they give you to make the sale, but so many people believe it because it kind of makes sense. The problem with that reasoning is this: headlights can never satisfy the requirements of both high beams and low beams at the same time, because they both serve a different purpose: Low beams are designed to put light in the lane in front of you so that you can see at night without blinding other drivers, and High beams are designed to put a lot of light in both lanes in front of you, and light up the road far ahead for better vision when other people aren't around. You cannot light up the road far ahead without blinding people close by, so you can't make lights that are both low and high beams, but HID sales people would have you think otherwise so that they can make a sale.Macky said:well with HIDs really you wont be needing the highs as much anymore
That's why every car that comes stock with HID's still has both high and low beams (think about it!).
I was "converted" one day after reading about illegal HID's on a very knowledgable lighting proffessional's web page. I can't seem to find it right now, but it is an excellent page. Hopefully I have enlightened some on this topic (yes, i know, that was a bad joke), but it seems to be a very dark area for some people (honestly, I'll stop now). There will be some who disagree, but if you think about it logically, it really does make sense.
-Taylor Alexander
Ah, I found the page: http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html
There are two sections, one on HID performance and one on upgrading regular headlights to HID's. If you want to really understand HID headlights, read these pages! Note: The links to each section are blue, but not underlined, so you may not initially realize that they are actually links when you get to the page. Also, you may want to click on the "Tech" link on the page's sidebar. There you can find a wealth of information on lighting.
-Taylor Alexander
There are two sections, one on HID performance and one on upgrading regular headlights to HID's. If you want to really understand HID headlights, read these pages! Note: The links to each section are blue, but not underlined, so you may not initially realize that they are actually links when you get to the page. Also, you may want to click on the "Tech" link on the page's sidebar. There you can find a wealth of information on lighting.
-Taylor Alexander
^^^ dude, i know what you are trying to get at. its not like im dumb and stupid into thinking i have no more use for the highs anymore. you know about those misconceptions? i think you got us all mixed up here bud. i have read anything and everything there is to know about installing an aftermarket read:non-OEM kits. YES they are not as bright as OEMs. yes there is a marketing ploy behind the color of kits out there. YES they will never be the same as getting a complete retrofit.
so what?
you should do a little research of your own before you post such info that is so passe and so back...way back...in the archives on the boards. i for one have started the research and did a lot of homework before arriving at a compromise when i got my HID kit. i did 2 good years worth of weighing pros and cons, reading everything there is to know about HIDs, long before i accepted the good and the bad, then settled on what kit to buy.
dont lecture me about lighting, especially one regarding the 3S(2nd gen and up in particular). as a side note not all cars equipped with HIDs come still with stock halogen highs. some have bi-xenon systems which use a steper motor and/or a mirror to reflect light and serve as a high-beam substitute.
"converted"... boy you are miles behind what i know about HID. most likely the info you have is but a drop compared to what i know. if there is one thing worse than someone believing in misconceptions, its someone who doesnt know to search before he posts information already known by the masses.
the question of this thread was about who has "real" ie, not them pep boys fake ones. not a question of what HIDs can and cannot do. if you want to brag about what you know about HIDs (more than likely quotes from everyone else) look for someplace else.
i did not say remove the high beams because they are useless did i not?all i said is that once you get HIDs (or a car with them) you will more than likely almost never need to use the high beams, not abandon them altogether.
if its one thing that bothers me the most, its people who have false misconceptions about what i say.
so what?
you should do a little research of your own before you post such info that is so passe and so back...way back...in the archives on the boards. i for one have started the research and did a lot of homework before arriving at a compromise when i got my HID kit. i did 2 good years worth of weighing pros and cons, reading everything there is to know about HIDs, long before i accepted the good and the bad, then settled on what kit to buy.
dont lecture me about lighting, especially one regarding the 3S(2nd gen and up in particular). as a side note not all cars equipped with HIDs come still with stock halogen highs. some have bi-xenon systems which use a steper motor and/or a mirror to reflect light and serve as a high-beam substitute.
"converted"... boy you are miles behind what i know about HID. most likely the info you have is but a drop compared to what i know. if there is one thing worse than someone believing in misconceptions, its someone who doesnt know to search before he posts information already known by the masses.
the question of this thread was about who has "real" ie, not them pep boys fake ones. not a question of what HIDs can and cannot do. if you want to brag about what you know about HIDs (more than likely quotes from everyone else) look for someplace else.
i did not say remove the high beams because they are useless did i not?all i said is that once you get HIDs (or a car with them) you will more than likely almost never need to use the high beams, not abandon them altogether.
if its one thing that bothers me the most, its people who have false misconceptions about what i say.
CATZ is pretty much one of the best kits out there. its pretty steep though at about 500 a popJJay said:
What brands do you guys recommend? Catz? any others? :mitsu:
You tell him hon! Macky knows more than probably anyone else on this board (or who owns a 3/s for that matter) about HID's. He would blow anyone else out of the water with his knowledge. He amazes me sometimes (and that is hard to doMacky said:
) Anyways, don't argue with Macky about HID's cause you will feel the rath of the people who know and respect Macky for a person and for his knowledge about HID's. Remember Macky, n00bs just need a reason to feel special.
Alright, alright, I apologize. I misunderstood you, but that isn't some terrible sin. I never know if someone is an expert or not just by reading one post. What you said about high beams did seem to me to be taken from the words of a salesman, and I wanted to set that straight. However, it seems that that was not the case, and you were speaking from your own experience, but I could not have known that. I'm sorry if I had "false misconceptions" (as opposed to misconceptions that aren't false) about what you said, but it just sounded like the same thing that every ricer wannabe thinks about HID's, and in my "drop of knowledge" about HID's, I knew that there was more to it than that. If most people only say that highs are not needed because that's what some salesperson told them, how was I supposed to know you weren't saying it for the same reason?
I don't pretend to know as much as you, and I didn't intend to lecture you, but I didn't know who you are and I thought you were just another misinformed guy. Now I know that you are knowlegable, and if you say that a safe and legal HID upgrade can be made, I believe you. Keep in mind though, that although I may not be an expert, I was just trying to help out a person who I thought had been misinformed.
-Taylor Alexander
I don't pretend to know as much as you, and I didn't intend to lecture you, but I didn't know who you are and I thought you were just another misinformed guy. Now I know that you are knowlegable, and if you say that a safe and legal HID upgrade can be made, I believe you. Keep in mind though, that although I may not be an expert, I was just trying to help out a person who I thought had been misinformed.
-Taylor Alexander
hey its all cool dude. believe me, there are people on this board that are a lot worse in thinking they are the shit. you are different. your attitude is different than the rest and it takes a big man to be gracious in the way you have about this issue. its all good. we can all pool our knowledge in hopes of helping others. thats the better goalFaceGarden said:
Im just gonna post this here because I figure it will get attention. If I am going for the blue HID look should I go for the 6000k kit? Or is the 7000k still the recommended kit to buy. I plan on buying tonight from Misterjung.com while they still have their sale going on.
Don't get any of them. They blind other drivers...especially ones with contact lenses, RK/Lasik corrections, or slight visual impairments. The effect can cause these millions of drivers to lose sight of the road and cause or have accidents. It may even cause them to swerve INTO YOU!
Be sure your lights are aimed properly, no matter what type.
No joke! This is a serious problem all over the country. You don't get that much more actual vision on the road, and you are just asking for problems. IF any driver has an accident or hits you and claims your aftermarket, self-installed headlites blinded him, you're gonna pay big.
So....let's be careful out there!
Be sure your lights are aimed properly, no matter what type.
No joke! This is a serious problem all over the country. You don't get that much more actual vision on the road, and you are just asking for problems. IF any driver has an accident or hits you and claims your aftermarket, self-installed headlites blinded him, you're gonna pay big.
So....let's be careful out there!
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