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Someones trying to defraud my buisness!!!

2.7K views 53 replies 30 participants last post by  aerOvr-4gto3k  
#1 ·
Today I got this e-mail regarding my upper door illuminated inserts:

"I have been producing inserts scince 2000 and was wonderin when you had them copyrighted because mine are scince 2000 i will send the info if you want i would hate to turn you in"

They guys name(or claimed name) is Josh Dobesh

Anyone of you who have followed my products know I am the orignal designer of this product, for that matter not trying to be cocky, but there are not that many people out there that can make this kind of stuff. If any of you have information on this person plese e-mail me with some details. Obviously this guy thinks he is going to steal my design and claim some sort of copywright on it, of course at which time he is going to get his ass handed to him.

I have been a seller on 3si for about 2 years now, and I have been a member for 3, I have never seen a single post or anyones car with anything remotely similar to this.
 
#3 ·
I'm no legal expert by any means ... but isn't a copyright only applicable to the work of an author - "writings", photos, artwork, motion pictures, music, etc.? I think a patent is what the guy means, and given that he doesn't even know how to spell, I would have a hard time believing he went through the whole patent process.

My guess is it's 100% BS.
 
#4 ·
Fuckem. Business is survival of the fittest.
 
#11 ·
Thats what patents are for!

It's like with the lambo doors thing. It's basically an idea thats out in the open anyways.
 
#12 ·
SpeedFreakSteve said:
Thats what patents are for!

It's like with the lambo doors thing. It's basically an idea thats out in the open anyways.
Patents cost something like $10,000(ouch)

I just can't believe someone has the balls to try and say that I stole thier idea an making threats like this. More likely, since he is in Nebraska, he has been to my shop and seen my car, and now wants to copy my design.
 
#15 ·
You can't copyright making a product. That would be called a monopoly and it's expressly forbidden.

We live in a free market where competition in business is encouraged to stimulate the economy to the advantage of the consumer in the short run, and inventive, adaptative businesses in the long run.
 
#16 ·
That's some crazy shit.
 
#17 · (Edited)
If someone owns the patent to a product someone else cannot make the exact same product and sell it, however someone could make a similar product and sell it.

Even if he did try and copy me, I would just come back and make a better one:)
Not to mention I would trash his name trying to use my hard work to make him money. I am anxious to hear his response to this one, I just want to know what his motive behind that e-mail is.
 
#18 ·
Hello this is josh dobesh it wasnt me trying to defraud your business it was my good friend jed he and i bilt door panels with fiberglass any way he just told me what had happen and he said that it is bull shit that some elese did the same type of thing that we did im which mine does not look anything like your but i do like you im sorry that he emaild you threw my account and hope this will clear up any confusion



This is Jed look man im sorry i emailed you i was pissed when i saw that because we too like a month to perfect the door good job on your business

sorry anbout that this is josh signing off

later
 
#19 ·
halonine said:
Hello this is josh dobesh it wasnt me trying to defraud your business it was my good friend jed he and i bilt door panels with fiberglass any way he just told me what had happen and he said that it is bull shit that some elese did the same type of thing that we did im which mine does not look anything like your but i do like you im sorry that he emaild you threw my account and hope this will clear up any confusion



This is Jed look man im sorry i emailed you i was pissed when i saw that because we too like a month to perfect the door good job on your business

sorry anbout that this is josh signing off

later

Thats fine, your design is completely different from mine anyways. I just didn't understand the threat since my idea came completely from my brain, nice to see someone trying someting new. I got to be on guard because this day in age you can't trust anyone. You should bring your car around sometime since your are in NE
 
#20 ·
Yea ill do that some time where you at id love to show you some of the fiberglassing and custom shit ive done well take it easy one again imm sorry for my firend i lock out my comp from him

and my buddy is such a jack ass he started shit for me in that other thred id love to get some of those products like the vents i have the plastic ones that break
 
#21 ·
halonine said:
Yea ill do that some time where you at id love to show you some of the fiberglassing and custom shit ive done well take it easy one again imm sorry for my firend i lock out my comp from him

and my buddy is such a jack ass he started shit for me in that other thred id love to get some of those products like the vents i have the plastic ones that break
just a thought, your sentances would be a lot easier to read if you used a period once in a while.
 
#22 ·
bbreese said:
just a thought, your sentances would be a lot easier to read if you used a period once in a while.


AHAHA thats what I was thinking.

Not to mention I have a feeling that this is BS that he is babbling about...

"my friend jed blah blah blah"...

And both have the same poor grammar and vocabulary...

Meh, if they are two different people... at least I am far away from them... :eek:
 
#23 ·
Who cares if it's his friend or not. He's trying to excuse his past behavior and letting us know it won't happen again. It doesn't matter if it was him or his friend... we're a good forum and we're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

Halonine - Change your password and don't let your "friend Jed" post anymore. He's giving you a bad rep. Just be cool from now on and this'll blow over. Just make sure not to let "jed" do any more talking for you :)