I was looking for a link on more information about Ray Pampena's 3.7L and 4.5L stroker kit. I know he was talking about this last year some time, but what is the status on this? Anybody have a link?
Ray Pampena's 3.7L and 4.5L stroker kit
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Devils Mentor said:I 2nd You on that!!! I HOPE that Ray Does the 4.5, but Hell, Someone Needs to Start making a Kit to make the 3.5 a Drop in Mod!!! I am VERY Surprised that the 3.5 Drop has Not made a Bigger Impact!!!! I was Thinking that by now it would be a Daily MOD
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It's rather hard to make it a "drop in mod", seeing that everything sits higher on the block.
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mitsuman03 said:
Take a Look at Johns Web-Page, It is Not all that Hard of a Mod... You just need to Mod a Few things like Brackets and Other Parts that I don't recall at the Moment, But Nothing Crazy.... I thought there was a Guy making Kits for 3.5 Installs but I can find that Info now... As for the 3.5 sitting Higher, I don't believe that is an Issue...
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^^^Especially if you use a cowl hood.
But I read somewhere that even a cowled hood is NOT good for our cars.
Hmmmm....
Daniel
But I read somewhere that even a cowled hood is NOT good for our cars.
Hmmmm....
Daniel
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99MODVR4 said:No......say it ain't so! If you do I'm coming over....like now.
I'll keep u updated on the status..lol...Y is it that IVE never seen ur car in cuse?......like NEWHERE??...haha..were do you hide?
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Do you know how the 3.7L compares to the 3.0L (just the engines themselves)? And why didn't the 3.7L and 4.5L become big? It seems the everyone on here is really for them, and very interested in them.SnakeSkinner said:
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Yes the 3.7L is 23.33% larger in displacement compared to the 3.0L. That is exactly why people are interested in them. And how "big" do you think a 3.0L motor can get by increasing bore and stroke? The fact that it's increasing .7L on that block is amazing. And the 4.5L from a 3.5L? What kind of miracles do you expect out of the block? Unless it grows a couple extra cylinders it's not going to be the same displacement as a LS7.ShroomStealth said:
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You fell for the trap, This tread has been infected by SNV....Stupid Noob Virus
What once was a great thread has been corrupted and now anyone who posts in it becomes a little stupider for thier trouble.
I didn't want to risk the effects of SNV on myself BUT I felt I had to sacrfice myself to save others.... Good luck and don't fall for this trap again!!!!!
You fell for the trap, This tread has been infected by SNV....Stupid Noob Virus
What once was a great thread has been corrupted and now anyone who posts in it becomes a little stupider for thier trouble.
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I just visited your 6g74swap site, John.
Phew! That looks like ALOT of work.
That may have just discouraged me from doing the swap.
I don't think I have the skills necessary to do this like you did.
Daniel
Phew! That looks like ALOT of work.
That may have just discouraged me from doing the swap.
I don't think I have the skills necessary to do this like you did.
Daniel
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I wasn't talking about the engine being big, I was talking about why people didn't make the 3.7L popular. He said that there were 3 3.7L, and only 3. My question is why isn't there more of them. They seem to be in demand, so it's not like there will be money lost in making them. I'm sorry for the confusion, and yes I'm somewhat a "noob" when it comes to the RT/TT, VR-4s becuase I don't own one (yet). By my asking of stupid questions I'm trying to learn....TooFast4Radar said:
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ShroomStealth said:
The 3.7L is not an engine made by MITSU, if thats what your thinkg. Its a bottom end completely custom built. Hence y there not popular, never massed produced.
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the 3.7 engines are built to order and are approx $9500 for a drop in fully built shortblock. the pampena 3.1s like the one thats in my car are 4900 ready to drop in.
it all depends on what you want. the stroker will spool turbo(s) much faster and is way stronger due to the crank used (thus the increase in price)
i havnt been ready to take the plunge and bring the 4.5s to life because the slow sales on 3.7s showed me it may not be worth it. plus the 3.7 is complete drop in and the 4.5 will require a 6G74 conversion
Ray
it all depends on what you want. the stroker will spool turbo(s) much faster and is way stronger due to the crank used (thus the increase in price)
i havnt been ready to take the plunge and bring the 4.5s to life because the slow sales on 3.7s showed me it may not be worth it. plus the 3.7 is complete drop in and the 4.5 will require a 6G74 conversion
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ray ..as soon as i start my new job..hopefully in a few months..i will be in touch with you...ray pampena said:
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ok, that makes since then. I know that Mistusbishi didn't make them. It just seems that they are popular and would sell, but I guess not.mitsuman03 said:
How exactly do you do that conversion? Wouldn't you just swap the 6G72 with a 6G74? (Yes, I know I'm stupid, but I don't know anything about engines.)ray pampena said:
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That's too bad... My 74 has been sitting in the corner of the garage for almost a year waiting for the 4.5 to be announced. Still need to sell my other car though.ray pampena said:
Sales may pick up once the 3.7's out there start showing what they can do.
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ray pampena said:
I Paid around $13K for My 383 Stroker in My Camaro ( all Summit and Jegs Off the Shelf Shit,) so $9k (for Custom Built Product) is Not a Bad Compromise!!! Though YES, $9k is a lot of $$$... I could not do it now...
I would think that it would be a Great Option to Sell the Crank alone, separate from a Complete Kit... This way it would be easier for One to Build their Own Kit as time and Money Permits... Plus doing it this way will allow for two things:
1) Recoup some the Capital Invested in the R&D of the Crank at a Faster Rate
2) Allow for One to Build at their Own Pace, in turn alleviating the Possibility of Loosing out on the Stroker option all together (ie; Never being able to save up for the complete kit QUICK enough and miss out because Rays takes it off the market)...
Just My thoughts...
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