I think it is important because I like to buy that flagship car, but in the overall scheme of things it is probably more important for Mitsubishi to reform their internal politics and get the financials straightened out.

My next car won't be a Mitsubishi unless they turn around and make something truly cool. The EVO isn't it, and the Eclipse is lacking that turbo/AWD combo that put Mitsu on the map in the 90's.

 

I personally am a huge fan of the EVO's. They look amazing imo, they're fast as hell, and they can corner like nobody's business. What's not to like? (except perhaps for the the people who own them, and everyone that I've met that owns an Evo has been friendly, so I can't hold that against them)

Even if they do decide to make a high-performance flagship model, I think they should hold on to the Evo as a 'semi-affordable' performance vehicle that is much more practical than most cars in it's perfomance class. If Mitsubishi could make something that would give the new Supra/Skyline/NSX/Z06 a run for it's money, that'd make my day.

...the Eclipse is lacking that turbo/AWD combo that put Mitsu on the map in the 90's.

Couldn't agree with you more on that point. Mistubishi seems to be really good at making successful Turbo AWD vehicles, so it really confounds me when I try to fathom their reasoning for making the Eclipse NA FWD. Stick with what you're good at, I say.

 

I personally am a huge fan of the EVO's. They look amazing imo, they're fast as hell, and they can corner like nobody's business. What's not to like?

Four doors, to start with. Boxy shape for the nail in the coffin.

 

New flagship should be..... a production HSX AWD Twin Turbo 4.5L V8 two door.



/thread

 

Four doors, to start with. Boxy shape for the nail in the coffin.

I associate the name "Lancer" with the POS turbo four door manufactured by Chrysler in the 80s. Oh wait, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is just that car evolved into a Mitsu with a bigger turbo. Now it all makes sense...

 

Maybe Iv'e missed something or I'm just too old, but it's all about sales yeah? As soon as people start spending up on sports cars again, then Mitsu may look to something that outdoes the EVO. Nissan I believe will continue building great cars from top to bottom. (family cars to the new GTR)

Scotty

 

Four doors, to start with. Boxy shape for the nail in the coffin.

You say 4 doors as if it were a disease. Try fitting yourself and 3 of your friends in a 3s. Doesn't work so well. Don't hate on it because it's practicality absolutely demolishes that of the 3s.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the 3s, I own one myself, so it would be slightly stupid for me to dislike it. That being said, I don't try to fool myself about it's shortcomings. For example, the 3s cannot be used as a sporty family car, while an Evo can. The Evo is like the National Guard, its a normal civilian vehicle most of the time, but 1 weekend a month, and 2 weeks/year, it sheds its normal characteristics and becomes "super-civilian"....and proceeds to decimate just about anything else in it's price range. I just got my ass handed to me at an AutoX event at my school by this four door boxy car. Now granted, I just bought my car ~4 weeks ago, and so I haven't completely mastered it yet, but the guy who owned the Evo wasn't the greatest driver either, and I still got beat by 2 seconds on a 38 second course. I also claim in my defense that the course was set up by someone that drives a CRX, take that as you will. :realmad:

That being said, if you can't afford to have 3 cars (a daily driver, a 3s for weekend fun, and another 3s to repair the first 3s) then the Evo is a great alternative. You say boxy and 4 doors, I say economical and practical.

 

You say 4 doors as if it were a disease. Try fitting yourself and 3 of your friends in a 3s. Doesn't work so well. Don't hate on it because it's practicality absolutely demolishes that of the 3s.

Its a good little sporty compact sedan, but there aren't many "flagship" cars that are 4-doors.

My grocery getter has 4 doors, so does my truck - I don't need my fun car to have 4 doors too.

 

Dodge Lancer and Mitsu Lancer

kinda like Chrysler bring back the Aspen name to use on their new monster SUV. IMHO both are ugly as hell.




But back on topic I always thought Ford was missing out because they didn't have a super car. They had the Mustang but that was competing against the Firebird and Camaro they had nothing to put up against a Corvette. They did that for how many years!?! Regardless a cars design or competition if it becomes a flagship its because of what it stands for. The good old days of two door sports cars are quite in question. The RX-7, Supra, 3000GT/Stealth days are over. We are in the Subaru WRX and Mitsu Lancer 4 door days. Personally I would love to see the 2 door sports cars return to the forfront. Heck when Mazda made their next rotary sports car a few years back they added those two extra weird doors on it (RX-8). Dodge Charger came back from the dead it came in 4 doors and a rather boxy style body. Even the Dodge Chargers from the 1980s came in two doors!

 

You say 4 doors as if it were a disease. Try fitting yourself and 3 of your friends in a 3s. Doesn't work so well. Don't hate on it because it's practicality absolutely demolishes that of the 3s.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the 3s, I own one myself, so it would be slightly stupid for me to dislike it. That being said, I don't try to fool myself about it's shortcomings. For example, the 3s cannot be used as a sporty family car, while an Evo can. The Evo is like the National Guard, its a normal civilian vehicle most of the time, but 1 weekend a month, and 2 weeks/year, it sheds its normal characteristics and becomes "super-civilian"....and proceeds to decimate just about anything else in it's price range. I just got my ass handed to me at an AutoX event at my school by this four door boxy car. Now granted, I just bought my car ~4 weeks ago, and so I haven't completely mastered it yet, but the guy who owned it wasn't the greatest driver either. I also might mention that the course was set up by someone that drives a CRX.

That being said, if you can't afford to have 3 cars (a daily driver, a 3s for weekend fun, and another 3s to repair the first 3s) then the Evo is a great alternative. You say boxy and 4 doors, I say economical and practical.

what kind of crack are u smoking? sports cars are not "practical" nor should they ever be considered practical. they're toys. if u want practical, get a sedan, wether it be a evo or an accord.

how can u even say that an evo is a great alternative if u can't afford a 3s for weekend fun and a daily driver? i could be a used tt/vr4 and a NEW civic at full msrp for the price of an evo.

 

Its a good little sporty compact sedan, but there aren't many "flagship" cars that are 4-doors.

My grocery getter has 4 doors, so does my truck - I don't need my fun car to have 4 doors too.

I'm not suggesting that Mistubishi's 'flagship' model have 4 doors. All I'm saying is don't hate the Evo just because it has 4 doors, and for no other reason. I don't take into account the number of doors on a car when buying a car for a specific purpose, unless the number of doors specifically affect that purpose. The Evo has 4 doors, and stock for stock, will absolutely demolish a 3s. Apparently, the number of doors shouldn't affect my decision when considering buying a sporty car.

 

what kind of crack are u smoking? sports cars are not "practical" nor should they ever be considered practical. they're toys. if u want practical, get a sedan, wether it be a evo or an accord.

how can u even say that an evo is a great alternative if u can't afford a 3s for weekend fun and a daily driver? i could be a used tt/vr4 and a NEW civic at full msrp for the price of an evo.

So your method of disagreeing with me is to accuse me of smoking crack? How mature.
If you read carefully, nowhere in my post did I call the Evo a "sports car", I merely said that it was a "sporty car", and while the difference is only 1 letter, I think the Evo more than qualifies as the latter.

And as for the second part, are you including cost of repairs of the 3s in that analysis? And plus.....you'd be driving a civic, I try to avoid that at all costs

 

this thread is going way off topic. I must admit, i like the look of having 2 doors much better than having 4 but i love the look of an evo. If they made an evo with 2 doors, 3liters(or more), and twin turbo awd, it might be able to keep up with other "flagship" models that other companies have to offer.

 

this thread is going way off topic. I must admit, i like the look of having 2 doors much better than having 4 but i love the look of an evo. If they made an evo with 2 doors, 3liters(or more), and twin turbo awd, it might be able to keep up with other "flagship" models that other companies have to offer.

An evo with 2 doors would be kinda like the 2.5 rs. Maybe it would look cool. Someone hurry and do a photoshop!

 

An evo with 2 doors would be kinda like the 2.5 rs. Maybe it would look cool. Someone hurry and do a photoshop!

That's kinda what I was trying to get at. If you do a 2-door design, then it doesn't have to be so blocky-looking. You can bring the roofline down to something that looks a lot more sexy. Save some weight in the process too.

 

I personally am a huge fan of the EVO's. They look amazing imo, they're fast as hell, and they can corner like nobody's business. What's not to like?

It is ugly, it is nasty, it is every little ricer boy's wet dream and it has 4 doors. Anybody who thinks an Evo looks amazing needs his head examined with a sledgehammer.

 

It is ugly, it is nasty, it is every little ricer boy's wet dream and it has 4 doors. Anybody who thinks an Evo looks amazing needs his head examined with a sledgehammer.

100% agreed. EVO is ugly. Thats why it shouldnt be a flagship car.

 

100% agreed. EVO is ugly. Thats why it shouldnt be a flagship car.

I don't remember anyone saying that the EVO should be considered as a flagship car.

jeez, I've never seen so much animosity directed towards a single car before.

 

I don't remember anyone saying that the EVO should be considered as a flagship car.

the opening post called it the flagship car

How important do you think a car companies flagship car is to its overall success? I personally think Mitsubishi took a step backwards when they went from a sexy twin-turbo 3 liter all wheel drive to a boxy, single-turbo 4 door, 4 banger as their flagship model.

see that, the second sentence

 

the opening post called it the flagship car

Alright, I must have missed that part.
Well then I'd have to disagree with his classification of the Evo as a flagship car. I would propose the alternative that Mitsubishi really doesn't have a flagship car at the moment.

 

It is ugly, it is nasty, it is every little ricer boy's wet dream and it has 4 doors. Anybody who thinks an Evo looks amazing needs his head examined with a sledgehammer.

Thank you for contributing. I feel that the thread's character has been enriched by your comment

I'm getting really tired of arguing with people that try to make their point using insults. I'm done with this thread.

 

Thank you for contributing. I feel that the thread's character has been enriched by your comment

You are most welcome. And I was nice enough to schedule your CAT scan for you on Wednesday at 8am.

 

So the Evo is boxy. And it would be nice if Mitsu revived the 3000GT. Ferny's points are completely valid. Anyone with more than one friend or with kids can see the advantage of having four dours. And 90% of those who claim they would not trade their VR4 for a new Evo are fooling themselves. Four doors or not, it will embarass a stock 3S in most categories (other than aesthetics). And it damn well should for being 12 years newer. Seriously, like Ferny said, what's with the name calling because someone advances an argument you don't like?

 

So your method of disagreeing with me is to accuse me of smoking crack? How mature.
If you read carefully, nowhere in my post did I call the Evo a "sports car", I merely said that it was a "sporty car", and while the difference is only 1 letter, I think the Evo more than qualifies as the latter.

And as for the second part, are you including cost of repairs of the 3s in that analysis? And plus.....you'd be driving a civic, I try to avoid that at all costs

Well remember the title of this thread. We're talking about their flagship model these days.

IMO I think it has to do with Mitsu's financial problems. Once they are clear and in good shape, we will see a new kick ass two door.

 

Family guy here. I'm actually thinking about getting rid of my VR-4 for something more family like. I personally would think I would be taking a step back buying an EVO. Sure the performance is there, but it still has the lancer qualities. On topic, it would be nice for Mitsubishi to come out with a true flagship car. The company needs to do something.

I'm shooting for the SRT-8 300C or the Cadillac CTS-V. I want the nice ride with ameneties for my next four door (Leather, NAV, Climate Control, etc).