oh man the amount of stuff we could do with a car drawn up in cad.... youll never get one sorry bud

 

did they even have CAD when this car was first designed?


Grant

 

sure they did, didn't you see it in TRON?

 

Do you know how freaking hard that would be??? HAHA. Holly $R#@. If someone wanted to divote a year of so, it would probably be better off in a 3d program like Solid Works or something else b/c Cad is really only a 2d software package with very little 3d capability.

Brian

 

I do know how hard that would be. Hense Im seeing if there is one around before i decide how much detail I want to have. Even if there is an accurate starting point It would save significant time.

yes, the 3d would be better. Reason for Unigraphics or Pro/E is that they have the ablilty to provide some simulated mechanical testing as well as importation to FEA software as well as ADAMS suspension geometry programs. CAD drawings would also be useful as it would allow for construction of 3D models of all the components. I would assume that Mitsubishi or Dodge would have a Model like this especially for hte later model years.

This is more a check if anyone has either spent the time or contacted Dodge/Mitsubishi to request a model rather than having to spend a year to blueprint the car, not that its impossible, its just a hell of a lot of work

 

well still sounds like overkill to me, but hey, whatever floats your surface-rendered FEA-mapped boat

 

Only 2 ways I see to get the said drawings/models.
1. Take EVERY part of a vr4/tt apart and accurately model it then assemble
OR
2. Head over to mitsu engineering in Japan, search their archived drawings from 198x-1990 for VR4/Stealth TT drawings, bring them home and model it up. Good luck getting to the drawings though, they don't exacly make that stuff public.

 

You dont need a full 3d model to determine the suspension geometry at all. It would be a huge waste of time and they make a few software programs specifically designed to do that for you. Peerless engineering makes the only one I know of but there are more. Everything can be figured out from a few simple measurements with a tape measure.

 

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yes, the 3d would be better. Reason for Unigraphics or Pro/E is that they have the ablilty to provide some simulated mechanical testing as well as importation to FEA software as well as ADAMS suspension geometry programs. CAD drawings would also be useful as it would allow for construction of 3D models of all the components. I would assume that Mitsubishi or Dodge would have a Model like this especially for hte later model years....

Solidworks can do FEA too.

We use a Faro arm at work to inspect parts, and we are looking at getting some special software for converting digitized data directly into solid models.
If my company gets that I will probably model a lot more parts.

 

Im not familiar with solidworks. Dont have access to it so i havent had a chance to look at what it can and cant do.

RE points. I understand that it is not required to have a full model to find the optimum points for a given application. A set of calipers and a couple hours of measuring. The main use of the model is for packaging and relocation of components purposes. Not for hte suspoints.My original post wasnt all that clear.

and de_vr4, it may be overkill, but im doin the redo for a mech project. The profs dont like anything that doesnt have the whole 9 yards. I dont knwo why, but while i want to make the geom and uprights for the car, i also want to get credit for it. 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

Hello,

I have several version in 3d-max files of 3gt (.3ds and .max file + textures) and stealth.

Just let me know if you want me to email them to you

Fred.

 

Hello,

I have several version in 3d-max files of 3gt (.3ds and .max file + textures) and stealth.

Just let me know if you want me to email them to you

Fred.

I would love them, pm sent

 

I would definately like the models. PM sent earlier

Mike

 

Hmmm... sorry, attaching a file using PM is by far exceeding by capabilities I'd prefer email is possible

 

send to me too please. keith@chopshopracing.com thank you

 

OMG these really exist PENGULNS2001@aol.com.... i would be sooo thankful for that model

 

I would be interested if this is compatible with Solid Edge. Sorry, I've never heard of Solid Works...

 

Ok folks, I sent them to both of you pengulns2001 and Keith_from_GpTx... have fun!

Fred.

(remember you need 3dmax or a compliant viewer for those files...)

 

I would be interested if this is compatible with Solid Edge. Sorry, I've never heard of Solid Works...

 

Chrysler database has the complete solid modeling of every components on the vehicle, as well as class A surfacing of the vehicle. It is a huge project and it take years to fully design an entire car. So good luck on trying to recreate the vehicle.

^__^

 

BigTyla, sorry, I donna about solid works... do you want the models anyway?

Fred.

 

I recentley modled a td-04 9b COMPLETElY and accurately in CADKEY version 21. Its amazing what you can do with a computer...Anyone here use Cadkey? Its a pita to use and time consuming but is accurate. It would take quite awhile to do a full model of the car. I think AutoCad might be the best program for that? just my 2c

 

Stealthboy, just for your info, not at all meant as a swipe at you

AutoCAD is a very good program for anything 2D as well as house plans when you use Archetecural Desktop. Unfortunately its 3D engine is not that great. While it does have hte ability to make 3D objects and Drawing file from them, its not nearly as powerful as the programs like Unigraphics (right now used by GM), ProEngineer(Probably the most used 3D modeling program) or SolidWorks(a very close 2nd). The advantages of hte 3D base programs is that they have the ablilty to analize a part for various properties, to insert complex features without having to draw them by hand. They also have the abliltiy to do some analysis and CNC machine tool programing.

Mike

 

Chrysler database has the complete solid modeling of every components on the vehicle, as well as class A surfacing of the vehicle. It is a huge project and it take years to fully design an entire car. So good luck on trying to recreate the vehicle.

^__^

Do you know if there is a way to get the models from chrysler?

Mike

 

BigTyla, sorry, I donna about solid works... do you want the models anyway?

Fred.

Sure, send it over to willist@auburn.edu

Thanks.