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99 GTO 18x8 OEM wheels?????

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Hi all. Quick question as I found something odd yesterday. I was under the impression all the 6-spoke chrome VR4 wheels were 18x8.5, meaning they should be stamped as such. But yesterday I removed the wheels from my 99 GTO to have new tires fitted (Pilot Sport 4 S, can't wait for the fun) and I noticed the wheels were stamped as 18x8JJ, not 8.5 as I had expected. The 245/40 Pilot Sports do look about perfectly square on the rim, so I have to imagine this means they are definitely an 8.5? The vehicle was imported to me in Australia from Japan. I am only asking as I was going to try a few different spacer sizes before I pull the trigger on some Advan GT wheels. Just want to make sure I get the offsets right with no rubbing. So an 8 vs 8.5 sure would make a difference.

I was also shocked to see where the wheel was welded together at the seam along the barrel.
 
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Yes, they should be 8.5; even the older reproductions/replicas did not differ, AFAIK.

Yes, most people are unaware that 2G 18's were 2P welded... Stealth included. It is precisely why an improper strip and re-chrome can trap chemical solutions and result in corrosion buildup.

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IDK post pictures. IDT it is that deep though. It could be as simple as a casting flaw... 🤷🏻 heh

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If you wanted, I can look up the specific wheels for your car based on the chassis code (I know you said Z16A in your other thread) and number (should read: Z16A-XXXXXXX where the Xs represent the build number specific to your car) in the Japanese ASA. That would give you the part number specific to your car's build to look up the specs (conversely, I can also pull the part number for the US version to compare).
 
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...Just want to make sure I get the offsets right with no rubbing. So an 8 vs 8.5 sure would make a difference...
If it helps, my OEM MR BBS wheels are 17 x 7.5 +46. The wheels I currently run are 18 x 9.5 +44 (+5mm spacer).

Wheel comparison alone, that is 57.8mm difference accounting for both wheel width and offset (technically 28.9mm from the radius).

The main takeaway is that with our brake setup, it's not necessarily about wheel offset, but more-so spoke design on the wheel. The 2G gets a small leverage in that it's positioned further away from the center hub compared to a 1G, but is still limiting.

For instance, I've seen many 3/S/GTO users that have purchased the notorious ENKEI RPF1's with +15, +30, and +38 offsets and those absolutely do not clear without a supposed additional 20mm+ spacer.

Final note and observation, if the wheel spokes aggressively concave towards the center, on stock calipers, you may find yourself an issue with wheel fitment across all wheels manufacturers. Inversely, wheels that have convex spoke designs clear better.
 
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Thanks Thor. I'm having trouble really finding the right fit for these vehicles. I have some people saying their +22mm 9.5 wheels are "flush" in the rear, then others saying that +35mm 9.5 is perfectly flush in the rear. It's driving me nuts.

I thought a 19x8.5 +32 front and 19x9.5 +35 rear would be perfect but now it seems I could have gone closer to 30 in the rear without rolling.
 
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It is amazing how limited we are in the 3Si community! I remember my first VR-4 back in the 90's and buying a set of aftermarket rims for use with snow tires from an AWD stealth owner that no longer needed them. They fit his car fine without spacers, but I had to use spacers to clear the raised "MITSUBISHI" lettering on the front brake calipers.

Keith