expensive to mod.
too heavy.

but looks better than all of them!

 

big, fat, heavy pig with horrible handling and too many gizmos.

 

because you touch yourself at night.





Just kiddin'

fat, over priced, big, hard to mod, too much shit, terrible handling, piece of garbage that looks ugly.

Those are the ones I have heard anyways.

 

Is the handeling on our cars really that bad? Of the 90's japanese "sports cars" it is the only one with AWD that I know of. I am sure that has to help some where...

 

The handling seemed fine going over 100 miles an hour on mount vernan. Don't let the mags or people rag on your car. I'm sure it handles fine. I have a theory that people didn't like the stealth because it was an american car made in japan, and since the stealth is exactally the same as the 3000GT, that attitude transfered to it, too. I think a 91 VR4 got the salom record in car and driver too but don't quote me on that.

Just ask yourself next time your going onto an on ramp at 80 miles an hour if your car handles good

 

I LOVE my VR4. It still turns heads. Some dude at the light was eyeing my car from front to back, just checking it out. I tend to cruise in mine, just to show it off. Give it time to marinate on the lookers brain.

 

The handling seemed fine going over 100 miles an hour on mount vernan. Don't let the mags or people rag on your car. I'm sure it handles fine. I have a theory that people didn't like the stealth because it was an american car made in japan, and since the stealth is exactally the same as the 3000GT, that attitude transfered to it, too. I think a 91 VR4 got the salom record in car and driver too but don't quote me on that.

Just ask yourself next time your going onto an on ramp at 80 miles an hour if your car handles good

I've heard about that record as well. To be honest, its the WEIGHT issue that really has tuner mags ragging on our cars. My opinion anyways.

 

The VR-4 was Motor Trend's 1991 Car of The Year.

As time went on though our price was getting more and more expensive...that's one reason.

They also put our cars up against some STIFF competition. It's not uncommon to see our cars compared to some Ferraris, NSXs of course...etc.

Of course we'll get ragged on if compared to cars in that class.

 

Im with chauncy, they always make sure to compare our cars to bigger, badder german, american, and italian sports cars. Its usually the cheapest, or close to it, and has the worst hp/weight ratio of the test, so its no wonder it loses. But compared to "average" sportscars, its still right there with them. The fact that they even compare it to the porsches, ferraris, and vipers show that they think its in the running with them, even if its at the back of the herd.
Dont let it get you down.

and if you want a lot of articles about the subject go check out stealth316.com if you havent already

 

I never could understand how an AWD AWS car wouldn't handle better then the 300ZX, RX7 or Supra...

Thanks for clearing that up!

 

Is the handeling on our cars really that bad? Of the 90's japanese "sports cars" it is the only one with AWD that I know of. I am sure that has to help some where...

don't forget of eclipse gsx and talon tsi and laser whatever model it is were awd, not sure if your not considering these models sport cars

 

DSM's weren't exactally in the same leauge as the big 4 jap cars (supra 3000GT rx7 300ZX). They were more of a small sporty coup with a bad ass motor.

 

DSM's weren't exactally in the same leauge as the big 4 jap cars (supra 3000GT rx7 300ZX). They were more of a small sporty coup with a bad ass motor.

Were? Still are

 

I never could understand how an AWD AWS car wouldn't handle better then the 300ZX, RX7 or Supra...

Because it wasn't really designed for "handling". Just stability during high speed lane changes. I honestly think Mitsu put it on the car just to check off another box on the gimmick list.

The 300ZX had 4WS also. They called it HICAS.

One of my biggest complaints about this car is the numb steering. It seems a lot of the magazines agreed.

 

Funny I saw this post RIGHT after I was looking at this post:

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=309057

lol there's something good in a magazine for ya

 

As Gatecrasher said our cars WEREN'T BUILT with the intentions of being a dominant track and straight line car.

Our cars are Grand Touring cars. Everyone just sees AWD/AWS/TT (lots of abbreviations) and thinks OH WOW, lets put it on a track! In reality yeah it's pretty damn good on a track, but when you're comparing it to LIGHT FD RX-7s, NSXs, Skyline GT-Rs...we're going to look a little iffy.

Everyone seems to forget (that doesn't know much) that these cars weren't built for that purpose...

And yes, the 300ZXs did have AWS.

 

That is true. I wouldn't expect a track/drag car to come with climate control, premium sound, 2+2, full leather interior, electronically adjustable seats, etc, but since this was Mitsu's sports car, you can expect it to do all right on a course and in a straight line (which it does). Again, don't put all your faith into what a magazine says. For what it is, the car handles fine.

 

Top gear tore it a new one...it was bad...

 

top gear while a good show is always biased, anything over 1800 lbs and they are like OMG!

Do I have to bust out the GTO MR beating the Supra?

Yes the GTO also beats the 300zx on the track.

do we have to bust out the 13.45 second 1/4 mile time from pop mechanics?

take a look here and this is the original 91 car. It beats the 300zx(danny sullivan ran multiple laps testing the cars extensively).

http://home.neo.rr.com/mikes2nd/images/Road&Track_article02.10.jpg

 

I look at Top Gear as a form of entertainment. Not journalism

 

just face it people, the 3S will always be hated.
No matter who/what we beat at what track (drag/RC) It will never change.
once you learn to accept that...things will go much easier.

 

I want to see the Top Gear segment on our cars

 

2 reasons and one is not the weight, Supra's and 300Z's weigh over 3500lbs ,#1.. the turbo's are TOO SMALL , just look at what the supra comes with from the factory #2 Mits put dampers , sway bars and spring rates in these cars that came out of a 89 Ford Tempo. I own a NA, in OEM form it handled like shit , I drove two TT stealths without ecs , I couldn't believe how badly they rocked from front to back when going from gas to brake. Besides those two main factors , Mits should have given it a slightly longer wheel base , you know? that back axle that "looks" like they fucked-up and placed it off centre in the back Quarter , this would make these cars much more predictable for high speed handling.

 

2 reasons and one is not the weight, Supra's and 300Z's weigh over 3500lbs ,#1.. the turbo's are TOO SMALL , just look at what the supra comes with from the factory #2 Mits put dampers , sway bars and spring rates in these cars that came out of a 89 Ford Tempo. I own a NA, in OEM form it handled like shit , I drove two TT stealths without ecs , I couldn't believe how badly they rocked from front to back when going from gas to brake. Besides those two main factors , Mits should have given it a slightly longer wheel base , you know? that back axle that "looks" like they fucked-up and placed it off centre in the back Quarter , this would make these cars much more predictable for high speed handling.

The question was about why "mags" hate on our cars - and its always the weight issue along with the handling (which potenitally can go hand in hand). Sure, in all technicalities, we can get into the factory turbo size and fuel system....but the bottom line verdict from driver-editors is 1.)"you can feel the weight through corners" 2.)"numb steering feel along with major understeer"

...and I'd have to agree. Nothing a little aftermarket cant help dramatically improve though, so I wont lose any sleep over it.

 

2 reasons and one is not the weight, Supra's and 300Z's weigh over 3500lbs

There's a huge difference between 3500 and 3800.

#1.. the turbo's are TOO SMALL ,

Mainstream car mags don't usually concern themselves with modification potential.

Our stock turbos give EXCELLENT low end response. Lag is not a good thing in the real world. Those tiny ass turbos are the reason your motor has 300 lb.ft of torque way the hell down at 2500 rpm.

The number one reason has already been stated. In stock trim, the thing wallows like a loaded boat and feels disconnected from the road.