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Who's got Windows XP? Opinions? Thoughts? What about that authentification security thing? Anyone got a copy w/o it? I keep hearing it's real crash-proof and can improve your sex life.

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I hear it's gay and looks more pussy-fied then Millenium Edition. :) I was going to say it looked "more pussy-fied then Me", but certain people would be jumping all over that one ;)
 

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Like ALL releases of Microsnot pruducts....WAIT!!!!

How many patches, fixes, release updates, service packs are going to come out when the real world starts calling in problems? Just like....95, 98(clusterF), NT, 2000, Millenium home edition and Office updates. For all you home users, you may not get alot of these updates, but if you ever worked in the IT department of a large silicon valley company, you got your IT people working with Bill and his cronies trying to fix things for your LAN.

What's all this crap about a Microsnot techie linking to your computer to fix it??? You open the door to all kinds of things...how many unlicensed SW do you got on your system?(DONT ANSWER THAT, I don't want to know) Does that open the door to ametuer hackers with their SubSevenXP backdoors? Things to think about.

You may already know, but as with all MS OS's where you could fill in the key with that 01111-11111-11111--1111 sequence....well no more. Each XP accepts a unique key, unless a MS techie sqeeks the secret of another sequence that unlocks ALL. :D

Be carefull guys, and safe computing.
(Also see: www.tinysoftware.com)
 

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Didn't know that about the OS key, that's good to know. :) Did you know that a lot of their business/home software (besides OS's) use 111211111111 or 1121111111111. :) Works with Visual Basic and Office 97 for sure. When it asks for the number, just enter 1112 or 112 (whether there's three or four empty spaces) then go to the next block and enter all ones.
 

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yeah, when a large silicon company that works very closely with Microsnot, buys the site license on OS's, it really does not matter what key you put in, as long as it is used by the company that bought the site license for business purposes only....which for this one company only! I know of one company that makes chips, which shall remain un-named, is very strict about it. They will walk you off site, if you screw up...by that, I mean, you are now, out of a job.:( Turn in your badge to the guards at the lobby and don't come back. I know of a few people that have gone that route, but I gotta tell you, you have to be pretty stupid to mess up like that.
 

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my problem with MS's new "Authentification Technique" is this:

what happens if in 5 years you want to install your XP copy on a old machine in the basement. You gonna call MS and get it registered? Yeah right. They're gonna tell you to upgrade, IF you even get through.

What if you SELL your license? For years, ms has said it's a PRODUCT that you should pay money for. Not for free. Now it's become, you're not buying ANYTHING. We're only allowing YOU a "license" (ie: rent) to have it. And if you don't like it, TOUGH. No returns. No Warranties. NOTHING. So if you buy it, you're stuck. Can't sell it, transfer it, nothing. What hogwash.

Screw this dangerous new technique to ouster even MORE money for software. I paid for Windows 95. WHY should i pay another $100 to fix problems that should've have been there in the first place? ($100 to fix crashes that were bugs in 95. I don't think so!).

(eg: buying a 95 Stealth new. And then next year telling you, that to fix your monthly tranny problems, you need to buy a 96 Stealth. Seems stupid huh?).

so anyone got xp yet??

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How do you mean screw up? Screw up by using the wrong number or by using that number for the wrong machines or giving it out? Sounds harsh.
 

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I know I am sticking with 2000 Professional for the time being. I see no advantage to going to XP.
 

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Only the Home Edition has that stupid online authentication crap. If you get the Professional Ed. it has/uses the standard Microsoft product code.
As far as how it works, it's not much more than a reskinned Windows 2000 Pro. With a lot of "Hello Kitty" like style mixed it. A good advertising slogan would have been "Playschool presents: WinXP!"
It is a little faster for me than 2000 Pro was. Probably because it takes more advantage of systems with lots of ram (got 1/2 gig in mine)
It's about as crash proof as 2000. Meaning that programs do not occupy the same memory addresses as the OS, like in Win95/98/Me. So software can go ahead and crash all it wants, but the OS will usually keep on chuggin.
It will improve your sex life as I have never seen porn displayed on screen with more vibrant colors before. :)
 

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wantvr4me said:
A good advertising slogan would have been "Playschool presents: WinXP!"
HAHAHAH That's exactly what I was thinking! :D
 

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How do you mean screw up? Screw up by using the wrong number or by using that number for the wrong machines or giving it out?
Yep. I mean exacly that. You see, in the NOC world, the Data Center, whatever you want to call it, when you connect to a LAN, the WINS server requests your name on a preprogrammed schedule, when the the rest of the company is running on one set of pregrammed OS builds, and you come along and put your 'custom' system on the network, WINS is programmed by their gurus to alert SMS and do an instant audit and then you are busted! Because your system is a square amongts the whole list of cirlces. So all kinds of alarms go on, and the NOC techie, gets on his terminal, runs Sniffer or some other utility and locates your systems via traceroute, right down to your MAC address, login id and router/switch connection and begins to record your activity. So Kabloooweee! you are out of a job....at least in that building workplace. SO you gotta be smart in those kind of situations. It's best putting it on a test server, rather than the production network.
 

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Ah, I've got ya. I've heard of that before too. Didn't Novell Netware do that whether you wanted it to or not? Maybe not..
 

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Smells like ME on crack to me.
it's far different from ME. WinXP is built off of the NT OS, not the 95/98 OS like ME...

XP pretty much sucks. Yes the Professional Ed. does not have the stupid "call to register" feature that the home edition has, BUT it still udpates on its own and stull has all the nifty backdoor features built in that let MS hack around on your system.

the good thing is, MS says you can disable evrything, except the backdoor policies :rolleyes: but at least it wont update on its own. We're sticking with 2000 at work and I'm not going to switch over to XP anytime soon..

About the "People are obviously idiots so lets make our operating system look like a paint-by-numbers childrens sing along book" interface...you can revert back to "Classic WIndows" style with a change of the display properties...
 

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I've been running it for around 5 months (beta and all) now and have to admit, it's pretty much Win2K with faster boot time and a more Apple-like/Gay interface. With all the tweaking I've put her through, she only takes about 56MB of memory on a clean boot (disabled a ton of services, themes, "prettiness", etc.) and she runs like a beast, though Win2K does as well with this level of tweaking. I just wish there was a way to get Win2K booting as fast as XP does on my machine (Athlon 1.4 w/ Mylex ExtremeRaid 1100 SCSI adatper).

As for registration - heh, I just got the corporate edition, plug in your number and you're done without the hassle of on-line registration.
 

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How fast does it boot now? I didn't think XP could boot any faster then 2000. We just got a P4 1.5 at work here with 512mb ram and two 7200RPM 60g IDE drives and it boots in maybe 20 seconds after the POST. That's ULTRA fast as to what I'm used to with the old NT 4.0 machines I'm using now that take 4-5 minutes to boot and the 95/98 machines that take about 1.5 minutes to boot or my old Linux machine that takes about 2 minutes to boot.. Of course none of the machines are hardly ever turned off so it isn't a big deal to me.
 
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