On the contrary, I know someone who did this and felt it was a very worthwhile upgrade for the $$$ - he picked up a consistent few tenths in the 1/4 mile from it. I don't recall his name on this board but maybe he'll see this thread and reply.TenshiVR-4 said:The DSM IC's are bigger and have a larger flow, but I don't think they'll cool any better than the stockers. Front air dam just doesn't allow it.
If you didn't catch it already, it requires some piping modifications to the ICs. Probably cost around 100 bucks from a machine shop, plus the cost of the intercooler from a junkyard (or new, I'd suggest a junkyard. Most of the guys running the places think they're heater cores).
You could also have someone weld the two cores together, fabricate an end tank (not that expensive either) then buy the PPE FMIC piping kit, and have yourself a front mount.
Marcus Frost said:
On the contrary, I know someone who did this and felt it was a very worthwhile upgrade for the $$$ - he picked up a consistent few tenths in the 1/4 mile from it. I don't recall his name on this board but maybe he'll see this thread and reply.
I agree. When you want to run 9s no sidemount will do. But with 260 cfm turbos stock the perfectly sized front mount would be that off a Starion ~ if you don't mind local ricers confusing it with a tranny cooler - go ahead. But I maintain, the sidemounts are the best choice until you need a shitload of power.TenshiVR-4 said:
Note: All three cars have run sub 9 second 1/4 mile times (I've seen GT-R's run low 8's on street tires), It may be a good idea to use them as an example.
I'm using a roots type, either a eaton M-90 or M-62. This is going to be all custom, no intercooler provided by anyone. The properties of a turbo vs. a supercharger don't effect the intercooler I should use, it just all depends on the psi and cfm. Basically these things will push around 500 cfm at around 10 psi, a lot more cfm than a turbo at the same psi. I think I may start out with a single dsm sidemount and an alchy/water injection kit that comes on when I hit a certain psi. A supercharger is not located on the exhaust manifold like a turbo, so there is not as much heat from the engine, just the heat from compressing the air.Telionis-1 said:I thought you gave that up buddy. A supercharger on a dohc?!?
At any rate, I suggest you use the intercooler the supercharger provider sells - who knows how the internal geometry of the core varies for supercharger applications ~ the air density and speed coming out of a supercharger are not the same as a turbo's.
Just get a lyshom type and forget cooling the charge.
Nah, but I'll build you a front mount air filter with a mesh grill that looks like an intercooler. Maybe I can make a home made blow off valve sound thingy too. Who needs real performance when you can make other people think you really have it.EVILTWIN said:I bet Taj can build you a Plywood front mount, he's unbelievable with that shit!