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Mobil 1 Blackstone analysis... You might want to see this.

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I've always felt Mobil 1 went downhill pretty quick... Here's a Blackstone chart (I know you guys love this stuff:D )

Left is Shell Rotella-T @ 8100 miles, second column is the avg., and the third column is Mobil 1 @ 2600 miles.



Pretty safe to say I'm going to stop wasting money on Mobil 1.

They really need to get their shit together before they lose a crapload of customers, 'cause more and more people are finding out about how much their oil's deteriorated in quality over the years. Definitely not worth the money IMO.
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I've switched away from Mobil1 as well and am now running Pennzoil Platinum as I've seen quite a few blackstone sheets like yours after running Mobil1.
I don't use it anymore. That's what you'll get for using a group III oil.
I don't use it anymore. That's what you'll get for using a group III oil.
Not all group III base stock oil's are bad. There are quite a few that are great, it just really depends on how they're refined and what additives are added to the oil.
This interesting I will need to start looking at more info and possibly a new oil brand.... Royal purple maybe?? I was thinking of throwing in some 10w40 RP.... should be better than Mobil1 I am going to stop wasting money, They need to get their shit together!:eek:
I love rotella t in all my turbo cars. It holds up a lot better than other oils in its price range.
I love rotella t in all my turbo cars. It holds up a lot better than other oils in its price range.
U use synthetic? what weight?
That's awesome, Rotella T is what I run. I've had some guys laugh, "That's truck oil". :)

Nice Moly number on the Shell. Good shit.
That's awesome, Rotella T is what I run. I've had some guys laugh, "That's truck oil". :)

Nice Moly number on the Shell. Good shit.
What weight and do you run? synthetic or conv? People please include that info, thanks a lot!
This interesting I will need to start looking at more info and possibly a new oil brand.... Royal purple maybe?? I was thinking of throwing in some 10w40 RP.... should be better than Mobil1 I am going to stop wasting money, They need to get their shit together!:eek:
RP for the win!
I run the 15-40 non-synthetic.
I run the 15-40 non-synthetic.
I dont even see that the have synthetic? in 15w40???
Ive actually ran the 15-40 Rotella stuff in my transmission. Worked well. I actually prefer to run 15-40 Commercial grade stuff that my dad gets for his business in my motor. FYI the government has mandated that oil companies make changes to their oils, so that they perform differently...not better. One of the ingredients that they have to lower is Sulfur. Old cars rely on Sulfur to act as a stable detergent and to absorb carbon(if im correct). Muscle car guys are pissed about this because their cars depend on it for proper lubrication. Anyways these mandates havent been put in place for Diesel trucks...hence 15w-40 for diesels is still as strong as ever. ;)
I tell every customer that uses Mobil 1 to stop wasting thier money. But advertising and the "but corvettes even have a sticker under the hood" crap sway them to use it.

We use RotellaT a lot. It's still pretty high in Zinc, even after the change to CJ standards, as that sample shows 1369ppm.

I am now using Brad Pen which is even better. I have torn down my motor after Brad pen Break in and Brap pen Racing oil was used. There isn't even any skirt scuff wear. And the bearings looked new. This after hard 700+AWHP runs.

For off the shelf Valvoline "Not For Street Use" Racing oil scores well in most tests.

-Chris
How would cops or anybody be able to tell if the oil in your car was illegal or not? and.. damn it.. i just put mobil 1 in like.. 50 miles ago.
I use Castrol Edge 10W60 in my stockish vr4.
Anybody knows bad things bout castrol?
Running a 15 as a lower number is not a real good idea in the winter. Most damage happens when you first start your car on a cold morning (for most people -except folks like Chris that run all out at the track and in his case he needs God as his co-pilot).

The 0w motor oils are better for cold weather operation. Oil is all about flow not pressure. On my performance cars I change the oil about every 1500 miles (cheap insurance). I run RP 0w-40w on the street and racing oil (RP at the track). For sure the higher the zinc content the more protection you have related to bearing stress/load. Remember on dino oil you start with the lighter weight and add additives to it so that it flows like the upper number at 212F (these get used up over time). On synthetic you start with the higher number as a base because it does not thin out nearly as much when hot.

From the research I have done pretty much nothing out there beats RP related to "Film Strenght" and "Extended Life" It costs more for sure but I believe it is worth it....my 2 cents on this subject only...

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Mobil Delvac 15W40 on my 95 VR4.
I use Castrol Edge 10W60 in my stockish vr4.
Anybody knows bad things bout castrol?

You are not gaining anything with the 60w other then restricted oil flow at higher temps. Dont go over 50w and better yet stick with 40w on the upper number.....
From the research I have done pretty much nothing out there beats RP related to "Film Strenght" and "Extended Life" It costs more for sure but I believe it is worth it....my 2 cents on this subject only...
The rest of your post was decent so I'll just focus on the last bit. I sure hope you have more info than those little marketing graphs (and maybe the bogus Timken bearing test some Aussie magazine performed which they later retracted) to justify that statement. If you do, I'd be very interested to see it. I'm always curious about the available oils in the market.

I tried Royal Purple 10w40 oil and that stuff sheared. I then contacted RP and asked them what % base oils they used and they admitted they used Grp III hydrocracked + PAO. RP synthetic is not a majority Grp IV/V synthetic. In comparison Red Line 10w40 shows no problems even after street + track use. FYI, Red Line's base is majority polyol ester with PAO added. The added PAO helps with some of the additives and also balances out the seal shrinkage/swell that can occur when using majority PAO or majority polyol ester.


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