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I'd like to take a look at the source also.
Clint, it looks like there's only 1.5d source available, could you update it in sourceforge or post here. :)
It would be really nice if Clint would post the 1.8g source since it really doesn't look like he's going to derive any income from it. That would be in the same spirit as when Dmitry made the source available to Clint originally.
 

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This stuff is amazing - thanks for putting it all together - any status on HSLogger project? RB
 

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Has anyone heard from Clint. His last post on the board was 10/16. Anyone know where he's at and that he's ok?

It would be really nice if Clint would post the 1.8g source since it really doesn't look like he's going to derive any income from it. That would be in the same spirit as when Dmitry made the source available to Clint originally.
 

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Dunno if anyone else is having this problem but I found a bug....

Using an aem wideband hooked to the egrt and selecting wideband o2 on the mmcd 1.8g. The afr values are not correct, if you use 0-5 volts everything seems to be just fine.

Edit... actually the 0-5 volts seems to read about .25 volts lean but that may be from voltage drop running through the ecu and into the logger. While the wideband function reads over 1 volt richer than actually. It may be reading lambda afr's?
 

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I've got my MMCD up and logging but before I ask any stupid questions let me start with this one. Is there a definitive list of all the items that can be logged and what are acceptable values for each ? I've been searching. A manual would be a great improvement for this. I had trouble at first getting it to log because I didn't click on the value names, so nothing was logging. I figured that out with some help, but reading the data I get back is a little more daunting of a challenge.

Can someone please point out a list if it exists ? Thank You.
 

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Dunno if anyone else is having this problem but I found a bug....

Using an aem wideband hooked to the egrt and selecting wideband o2 on the mmcd 1.8g. The afr values are not correct, if you use 0-5 volts everything seems to be just fine.

Edit... actually the 0-5 volts seems to read about .25 volts lean but that may be from voltage drop running through the ecu and into the logger. While the wideband function reads over 1 volt richer than actually. It may be reading lambda afr's?
AEM's output is 0v = 10.0 afr, 5v = 20.0 afr.

According to the first post, MMCD starting with version 1.6n uses wideband calibration 0v = 8.0 afr, 5v = 22.0 afr.
 

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If you are going to log wideband with mmcd download the source and change the scaling for wb02 and compile.
you can also change the... battery voltage input? i can't recall off the top of my head and my palm is out of juice, pretty sure it's battery voltage input to allow the wideband signal :)
 

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I haven't seen one but I'd be willing to help you out. I'd also like to help out the MMCd project but I have no programming skills. I could test and write up docs if anyone wants to move the project forward.

I've got my MMCD up and logging but before I ask any stupid questions let me start with this one. Is there a definitive list of all the items that can be logged and what are acceptable values for each ? I've been searching. A manual would be a great improvement for this. I had trouble at first getting it to log because I didn't click on the value names, so nothing was logging. I figured that out with some help, but reading the data I get back is a little more daunting of a challenge.

Can someone please point out a list if it exists ? Thank You.
 

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Is there any updates or newer versions???....on version 1.8g you don't have to modifie anything to log, just install software in my logger and ready to use??

Also how do you scan for trouble codes???

thanks
 

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Sir the information you need is in the very first post of this 106 page thread. I sugguest you review that post again including the hyperlinks.

Is it just me, or is this thread way too long? I've been trying to find some good tips or a guide to using MMCD, and this thread keeps popping up. I'm sure it is filled with lots of good stuff, but at 106 pages long, I don't dare to dive in...
 

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Re: MMCd Logger New Features and Sensors Archive Latest Information

16-4-05 Posted V1.8g (see below)

Starting this thread to review MMCd bugs and discuss possible new features. I would also like to see if there are other 3SI members interested in doing SW development. (Dev environment is free and takes less than an hour to set up.)

My goal is to periodically summarize feedback / posts on this page.

NEW SOFTWARE FEATURES
1. Auto Logging on Event (cbatters - done)
2. Peak - Hold (cbatters - done)
3. Upload / Convert to CSV (Shawn ????)
4. Address data scaling issues in log files
5. Big Number Mode (TurboBob?)
6. Graphical Gages
7. User Scaling/Config for Custom Inputs
8. User configuration for graph scaling (colors/scaling/offset)
9. User config for all sensors (colors/scaling)
10. User defined log rates / prelog / postlog
11. User defined graphical display time resolution
12. User defined alarm tones
13. Graphical alarm alert

Other suggestions...

HSLogger Project
Interface for adding additional inputs to the MMCd logger. New inputs include:

o Boost (x1) (Using either 2.5 or 3.0 MAP sensor)
o Wideband O2 (x1)
o Oil Pressure (x1)
o Fuel Pressure (x1)
o Intake Manifold Air Temp (x1)
o 0-15V input (x1) (Fuel pump voltage)

o EGT (x1)

o Other
o Vehicle speed (1) and derived calculations
- MPG
- 0-60 timing
- AWD HP

Models / Pricing
Planning to offer three different models of the HSLogger.

HSLogger Base - Fixes baud rate / RS232 level issues to allow compatibility with ALL Palm devices and includes Speed/Odometer input for performance / MPG calculations. You can also log boost with the unused EGRT input. (~$100)

HSLogger Exp - All of the Base unit features plus six 0-5V inputs (Pressure/Boost/Wideband O2 etc from existing sensors/gages - any 0-5V signal) (~$175)

HSLogger Deluxe - All of the Exp unit features plus higher resolution for low level inputs with signal conditioning for direct connection to sensors. Deluxe version has an "analog front end" that provides amplification, filtering, sensor excitation for direct connection to EGT Thermocouples, oil/fuel pressure senders, etc. (~$250)

I believe the Base unit is is competitively priced based on quality passive cables for $75 from Mirage or $150 for PocketLogger SW + Cable. (In my not so humble opinion, MMCd now runs circles around the PocketLogger SW.)

LINKS
Dmitry's Site http://mmcd.meditprofi.ru/
Protocol Info http://www.syndicate.evilsoft.org/projects/DSMDatalogger/Datalogger_Protocol.html
Boost Logging 1G Electronic Boost Data Logging - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
Intake Temp Thread monitoring intake temps - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
Intake Air Temp Research http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98661&highlight=plenum+temperature
Horsepower Calculation http://www.newcovenant.com/speedcrafter/calculators/rollinghorsepower.htm
Boost Controller Thread Stock Boost Control - Closed loop PWM or just Boost On / Off - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
Injector Cleaning Service Cruzin Performance
BlackStone Oil Testing Blackstone Labs
Intake Leak Testing Extremely Simple Intake Pressure Test - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
Inline Spark Tester 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center - View Single Post - Mis/Backfiring, Hesitating, Stumbling under boost... Can't cure it!
Rolling Resistance http://www.3si.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3137280&postcount=203
O2 Sensor Wiring / Test http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?p=712579&highlight=sensor+wiring+green+yellow#post712579
Air Filter Restriction / MPG - Dirty Airfilter Has No Impact on Fuel Economy - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
Data Loggin FAQ - TMO Datalogger 101
PocketLogger FAQ - PocketLogger for Dummies
Online Manual - http://www.ecanfix.com/users/manualcd/gift/3s/



LATEST VERSIONS
MMCd V1.8g - http://www.3si.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49809
MMcd V1.6n - http://www.3si.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39998
MMCd Tools (SPoulson) MMCd Tools
MMCd Tools - Bugfix (.2c) http://lancache.com/images/MMCdTools-0.2c.exe

SENSORS
EGT Probes - GENUINE MITSUBISHI TRANSMISSION PARTS
K Tc Probes - ThermoWorks – Thermocouple Wire Probes.
Easy Fuel Pressure Install- Easy Fuel Pressure Sender - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center
VDO Pressure Senders - VDO Pressure Senders from Continental Imports
Fuel Pressure Sender - http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail.cfm/-/Category=106/PartNumber=SEN-10-2/product.htm

DEVELOPMENT LINKS
PRC Setup for Windows - Installing prc-tools on MS Windows with Cygwin
Palm SDK for PRC - http://spp.palmos.com/iws/logon.do?action=init&page=sdk/palmos-sdk-5.0r3-1.tar.gz&back=dl_sdks/sdk50.html
Handspring SDK -
Pilot Hack Pilot Hack Tutorial
Palm Simulator - http://www.cs.trinity.edu/ftp/pub/w2k-software/Palm/Simulator/Palm_OS_5_Simulator_Rel.zip
Palm Simulator (PalmOS Site) - http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/simulator/
Palm Emulator (PalmOS Site) - http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/emulator/

FAQ - Tuning Information
MMCd Info - http://mmcdlogger.sourceforge.net/#Features
MMCd Tips - Remember to click on the "i" in the config dialogs for more info
TMO Faq - Logger Tuning
PLogger Faq - Parameter Meanings


Q1 - What do the letters mean in FLAG0 and FLAG2

Flag 02 status bits
A - Air conditioning relay
F - Fuel pump relay
B - Boost related ???

Flag 00 status bits
T - TDC sensor
S - Power Steering Pressure SW
A - AC switch
N - Neutral
I - Idle switch

Q2 - How do I view MMCd logs on a PC?

MMCd has built in support to upload logs using the Palms archive file capability by simply flagging the log files in MMCd. Files will automatically get uploaded to Palm User - Archive directory on the PC the next time you hotsync.

Simple solution for reviewing logs is to download the PalmSimulator which allows you to run MMCd on the PC. (Just drag MMCd program and log files to the simulator window.)

The other choice is to download MMCdTools which provides a conduit for xfer of logs files as well as conversion of MMCd log format to CSV.

MMCd Tools

SUMMARY OF CHANGES

KNOWN ISSUES:
Buttons/checkbox controls cause delays in log sampling rate

INVESTIGATION:
Min/Max button
User defined prelog / postlog times
Consider adding default Autolog triggers
Correct slug for EGRT WBO2 inputs - currently hard coded as MAP
Need to confirm Boost solenoid status display
Need to define/implement new log format (mS resolution / Integer / Long / Char )
Scaling for AFR input - Changed in 1.6N
Old 0-5V = 10.0 - 20.0 AFR
New 0-5V = 8.0 - 22.0 AFR
Configurable option for 3S versus DSM mode
- Timing
- Other differences?
Well you seem to maybe know alot about this datalogging stuff and my question is I just bought a new Palm M100 and have 3 cables now and not one will synch with my car. My ECU is perfect. All I get is in test mode for example is
serial comm error
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ECU comm error
Why? What is the problem, I cannot use my data logger at all. It syncs with my PC and it works fine with all software I load onto it but this MMCD V 1.5 once gave a couple weird numbers and that was it. I tried everything but no log. It just wont work. Nobody else has an answer maybe you do. I wish I had another Palm just to see if it is the Palm or the palm cable. But I dont and cant get a local 3SI dick to even reply to me and try to use his Palm to see but if you have an extra I can try it with maybe?? Or Ill try to buy another on ebay and waste my money. I'm just pissed tonight and Im tired of sitting in my car idling all my gas away trying to get my data logger to work. And for what reason I don't know. I have had sellers of cables borrow me cables and sent them back but nothing. Anything?? Ive tried all released versions and I take it off pause it cycles through in the bottom left corner what I have checked then pause comes back on. not one display no numbers nothing. making me crazy
 

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I have not heard from Clint in some time, but I'll give this a whirl.

What sync cable do you have?

What logger cable do you have?

Has anyone ever been able to log that car?

Are all the required pins present in the logging connector under the dash?

What is the baud rate set to?

What version of palm OS is in that palm?

Bob
 

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cables that came in unopened packages with the Palm and the same cables Jim Delucca makes for other companies. He has sent me 2 trying to help me. Its not that cable and also I bought another cable from a different maker on Ebay. I can get a reading with a needle style volt meter and it says code 14, TPS. Ive talked to everyone but you. The 3SX service manager Chris also is baffled as it should read if I am picking up a signal to a volt meter. I have gone through all the steps over and over but nothing. If I was to buy a colored Palm which do you recommend for a low price of course. I want to try another palm and see. Guess I have to buy it as I cant borrow one locally from anybody. people I work with have them but they inconveniently cant find them and Im in Utah with no help. I guess Ill buy a colored one and see. Which do you recommend. Got an extra confirmed working you want to loan me. I can pay a deposit and for freight. Im confused and tired at this point. Just burned out on it now. Im Giving up while everyone else enjoys theirs. It sucks bad
 

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the logging cable does not plug right into the palm, it plugs into a 'serial sync cable'

what kind of serial sync cable do you have? The 2-headed ones never worked for me (the ones that are both serial and usb)

Bob
 

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Can I use a laptop and a USB cable? How is that done and bypass the palm all together. I have a $2600.00 ASUS laptop but it don't have a DB9 connector its modern so i would need a converter from 9 pin to USB I guess , does tha even exist? How do I use a laptop to log? that may be a way to see if its the Palm or not without spending more money for no reason. ideas? Thoughts? Help?
 

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do you have a link to the logger cables? There are a couple designs, I'm curious how that one is built.

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there are ways to use laptops, but there are issues with the oddball baudrate that the ecu uses.

Easier to fix the palm stuff (probably)

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