[My92Stealth]

I just downloaded mmcd v.1.5 and I tried opening up the file and it said it needed to search on the interenet to find the correct file type so it could open it. I am away from my house right now and I'm just on my laptop. I dont have my palm pilot installed on this computer. Could that be why I cant even get the program to open on my computer. I have windows xp. Oh and when you have the palm pilot hooked up to your car, does it give it power? Or will it only run off of battery power? I have an m100 and it kinda eats batteries. I'm just using alakaline in it right now (if the datalogger cable for mmcd could charge the palm while its hooked up to the car I know I'd have to get some rechargeable lithium ion or ni-cad batteries for it). Thanks for the help

It is probably talking about win-rar, which is how the file is compressed (its much like winzip). If not and you have already gotten to that part, its probably because the palm install software isnt on your laptop. And when in use the palm runs off of its own battery power.

 

[simace]

I just got a Palm IIIxe (OS v4.1) and datalog cable from an ebay buy. It came with a tool called OBD Gauge which is kind of nice but lacks KNOCK info.

I wanted to use this program, so I downloaded it, installed it on the Palm and ran it but it doesn't work. The install and the program work fine - I guess it's either my datalog cable or the fact that I have a '99 VR4.

How can I go about figuring this out? The simulation in MMCd works, I set the baud rate to 19200 but still, under TEST, it fails with the error "communications error".

Thanks,

 

[simace]

Oh forgot to mention the OBD Guage software is configured as follows:

Interface = Multiplex

Multiplex Setup:
Baud = 19200
Address = 25
Protocol = ISO

Maybe this will make sense to someone.

Thanks,

 

[maddog]

mmcd uses OBD I communication systems. this was on 91-93 cars

94-95 uses hybrid OBD II

96-99uses OBD II as per U.S. emissions regulations

so mmcd will only work on 91-93 cars.

the problem with OBD II for our cars is that they dont show knock when using a monitoring program. I also thought the communiction rates were fairly slow compared to OBD I.

 

[simace]

mmcd uses OBD I communication systems. this was on 91-93 cars

94-95 uses hybrid OBD II

96-99uses OBD II as per U.S. emissions regulations

so mmcd will only work on 91-93 cars.

the problem with OBD II for our cars is that they dont show knock when using a monitoring program. I also thought the communiction rates were fairly slow compared to OBD I.

So how would I go about monitoring KNOCK? Seems that this would be a critical piece of information to be left out.

 

[maddog]

that would be the issue with obdII

not too much out there. some knock boxes and stuff like that but nothing ive seen works that great.

 

[MERLIN GTO]

I just downloaded mmcd v.1.5 and I tried opening up the file and it said it needed to search on the interenet to find the correct file type so it could open it. I am away from my house right now and I'm just on my laptop. I dont have my palm pilot installed on this computer. Could that be why I cant even get the program to open on my computer. I have windows xp. Oh and when you have the palm pilot hooked up to your car, does it give it power? Or will it only run off of battery power? I have an m100 and it kinda eats batteries. I'm just using alakaline in it right now (if the datalogger cable for mmcd could charge the palm while its hooked up to the car I know I'd have to get some rechargeable lithium ion or ni-cad batteries for it). Thanks for the help

You have to be using your Palm Pilot for it to open. It will not open on your PC unless you have a "Palm Emulator" installed. At least that is what I was just told.


Ricco

 

[MERLIN GTO]

I just got a Palm IIIxe (OS v4.1) and datalog cable from an ebay buy. It came with a tool called OBD Gauge which is kind of nice but lacks KNOCK info.

I wanted to use this program, so I downloaded it, installed it on the Palm and ran it but it doesn't work. The install and the program work fine - I guess it's either my datalog cable or the fact that I have a '99 VR4.

How can I go about figuring this out? The simulation in MMCd works, I set the baud rate to 19200 but still, under TEST, it fails with the error "communications error".

Thanks,

You likely may have a GM cable, not a 3000GT cable. I've seen this happen already. The only difference is where the 2 (the male and the female jacks) are connected @ the end of the cable that connects to the ECU. On GM's I think the fast baud rate is located on "M" and the slower baud is on "E"?? Something like that. You need to look and see where the 2 wires are hooked up and find out where the wires SHOULD be hooked up for a Mitsubishi, and rehook them yourself. That will do it I bet.


Ricco.

 

[MERLIN GTO]

Oh forgot to mention the OBD Guage software is configured as follows:

Interface = Multiplex

Multiplex Setup:
Baud = 19200
Address = 25
Protocol = ISO

Maybe this will make sense to someone.

Thanks,

YUP....that's it.........that is not the correct baud rate for the 3000 GT. I am pretty sure it only works on the slower rate for some reason, but don't quote me. But even if the higher rate works on your car, I bet the letters are still wrong like I said in my other post........check that out.


RICCO

 

[MERLIN GTO]

So how would I go about monitoring KNOCK? Seems that this would be a critical piece of information to be left out.

There's a lot more than just knock that is not shown. I am not sure what all is different, but I was told that the OBD1's are much more flexable and have a lot more info available.


Ricco

 

[simace]

You likely may have a GM cable, not a 3000GT cable. I've seen this happen already. The only difference is where the 2 (the male and the female jacks) are connected @ the end of the cable that connects to the ECU. On GM's I think the fast baud rate is located on "M" and the slower baud is on "E"?? Something like that. You need to look and see where the 2 wires are hooked up and find out where the wires SHOULD be hooked up for a Mitsubishi, and rehook them yourself. That will do it I bet.


Ricco.

The palm came with this program ODB Gauge and a serial connector with what looks like a dongle exactly like the Multiplex T16-003 (see above odb gauge website linked here).

Not sure what you mean by a "GM cable". This was purchased on ebay specifically for the 3000GT/Stealth (here is the link to the ebay item).

 

[MERLIN GTO]

The palm came with this program ODB Gauge and a serial connector with what looks like a dongle exactly like the Multiplex T16-003 (see above odb gauge website linked here).

Not sure what you mean by a "GM cable". This was purchased on ebay specifically for the 3000GT/Stealth (here is the link to the ebay item).

What I meant by "GM" cable is that the General Motors cables have their wires connected to different lettered locations than a Mitsubishi does. At least that is what I read. There are only 2 wires used in these cables, and the GM cables are hooked up to "M" and "E" terminals in the connector, one is male and the other is female. The reason I know this is because it took me a week to find software and cables to fit a 3000 GT and all the others I saw were GM, a LOT of them too, and a few were free. But they said in big letters not to try with any other ECU because the wires are hooked up to different terminals than other cars. Has anyone else noticed this? Or did I misread something AGAIN??

 

[simace]

I don't know if I should do this here or not, but maybe someone can go over this datalog and tell me what you see. Since I'm new to the whole datalog'in thing.

http://mysite.verizon.net/ermora/OBDII_02.xls

 

[iguana]

cbatters, can you post the latest code please.

can the latest MMCD source be made available please.

 

[ManUtd]

I'd like to take a look at the source also.
Clint, it looks like there's only 1.5d source available, could you update it in sourceforge or post here.

 

[ad087]

Just need a quick answer and really don't want to wade through the whole 104 pages! Can the latest build (on the first page) provide an AFR on the stock O2 sensor and not just a randomly swinging voltage?

Thanks in advance.

 

[TurboBob]

Just need a quick answer and really don't want to wade through the whole 104 pages! Can the latest build (on the first page) provide an AFR on the stock O2 sensor and not just a randomly swinging voltage?

Thanks in advance.

Nope. the limitation is the stock sensor.

 

[ad087]

What sensor would I need to fit - is there a part number/make that would be best? And will it still work with the stock ecu?

 

[3Sfever]

I am going to have to give up and ask. I have read many pages of numerous threads and instructions, but I can’t figure out how log boost on my ’91 Stealth to an Excel spreadsheet using a Scanmaster and MMCd.

The boost is measured by a 3.0bar sensor, connected to the EGRT harness. This apparently is hooked up correctly because the Bst display on the ScanMaster matches the value on my mechanical boost gage.

I am not sure if I have it configured properly, but the Palm connected to the ScanMaster also displays the correct Boost value in the MAP field while driving. (I can not find a EGRT field, which is what I was expecting) The Palm is running MMCd ver. 1.8g

After synchronizing the Palm with PC, and using MMCd Tools, ver. 0.2b (with 0.2c bug fix) the resulting spreadsheet has no MAP field with the boost p.s.i. figures, and the EGRT field is in degrees Fahrenheit. I have read mixed messages about whether that can be converted to PSI, and none of the formulas I found result in what I know the boost to be.

Hopefully I am just missing something simple.

.

 

[MERLIN GTO]

What sensor would I need to fit - is there a part number/make that would be best? And will it still work with the stock ecu?

Yes, it will work with your stock ECU. Just ask for a "wideband" O2 sensor, or go to Ebay and buy one for it. Hang on a second......what year and model is your 3000 GT? If you have a 91 to 93 N/A model you only need ONE wideband O2 sensor....I am not sure if you need 4 of them for the later years or not, but probably do.



Ricco