[Paul H.]

Do many of you also belong to FaceBook 3S groups? I joined one a couple of weeks ago and have to say its nothing like the forum. So far about 50% of the people are just whinny little kids who are most interested in bragging about some ricer than helping or promoting the 3S in any way. They seem to get their feelings hurt easily if you dont give them their participation trophy each time they make a post. lol

I know there are some of our members who are vendors and they seem to stay out of all the post for obvious reason and only advertise there. I dont think I am going to stay much longer unless its just to play with the kids and disturb their sandbox once in a while.

 

[Paul H.]

Well it seems my assessment is not wrong so far. lol I was wondering if I might just be getting old (Yeah I know Im old) and it was just me.

I had some kid get all bent our of shape and some of his buddies from his circle jerk because he posted an animation of a 3S and I commented it was cooler if it wasnt so bouncy looking and the wheels didnt camber in ever 2 seconds. He made sure to let me know he was "Sort of known" on the 3S community. He mean on the FB page. lol He kept saying he never heard of me and I just say good because Ive never heard of him either but I wasnt the one trying to claim fame or had a crushed ego.

He kept trying to say I probably don't even have a 3S so I just told him he can call WiseCo and ask about the custom designed pistons for our cars under my name.

He tried to say he could delete my messages because it was HIS facebook page. lol No he isnt an admin and its not his FB group. It was only his post and the only way to remove any of my post is to remove his original post or block me but then only he wont see it. lol Kid doesn't have a clue how things work.

It is pretty funny the delicate egos on FakeBook.

 

[Paul H.]

I basically use FB groups for these cars out of necessity because there’s way more active users their. I prefer the forums for sure and always search through them via Google whenever I need any good info but 90% of my sales come from FB groups whenever I’m getting rid of stuff or unloading something I fabricated. It is what it is. I keep scrolling past posts there quite a bit since there’s a huge amount of junk but there is some good info here and there. I still post up here frequently as well. Whenever I want to do a write-up or anything more extensive, I’ll always do so here and just link back to wherever because FB sucks for archiving info and researching.

Thats pretty much what I have been seeing. venders or people selling fab parts dont seem to post much, just advertise and answer questions.

I guess I was hoping for a little more because on most every forum I have belonged to there is more of a community, family feeling and people who want to actually help each other where FB seems to bring out the worst in people and its a breading ground for trolls.

 

[Paul H.]

We are trying to post on here more often, but as mentioned as a vendor its extremely hard to neglect Facebook due to the larger numbers.

Yeah I get that 100% You have to go where the money is if you want to have a successful business. I should not not really be surprised I guess I was just expecting more because its 3S but again its FB so who knows how many actually own a 3S or are wanting to learn/help in any way.

 

[Paul H.]

Yes, there is a lot of fragile egos and drama on FB, and they will absolutely roast you if you ask a question that can answered if you searched online. But there are many parts posted for sale, many very creative ideas that people post up what they have done, and services that are offered that can only be found on FB. I'm a member of 9 groups, and I find it very easy to bypass the trash, and find the substance, so join up. And if you find a person being bullied, DM them to join this forum.

Yeah you are right. I sort of get sucked into some of the drama sometimes but honestly its more just cheap entertainment and Im having fun. I forget all about it/then by the next day. lol

Good idea and I have done that a few times already for people who seem legit and looking for help.

 

[Paul H.]

I’m not bent out of shape at all, as far as I was concerned this was over with. It happened on Facebook. I just came here to defend myself because someone brought it to my attention that he made a whole thread about me on the forums. Which after calling me immature and a “Kid” just makes him look like the immature one.

Welcome to a real forum instead of Fakebook. Funny how you are still butt hurt about this even though all I did was state my opinion at the beginning. Like I said I wasnt trying to put you/it down, I just though it would look better if it didnt bounce and wobble. But you got all offended even though that is whats its supposed to do? lol

As you can see by the replies most everyone thinks the FakeBook groups are a joke so there is that also. You had your little circle of friends trying to defend you. No one came after you but you decided to come here. Welcome and maybe someday you will be "sort of known".

Do you feel better yet?

 

[Paul H.]

frankly, I always felt it a bit bothersome in those animations that the body and wheels was bouncing around all over the place too, kinda ruined the cool factor of the animation...like why would you want your car to look so bad ass then let everyone know it has $200 Maxspeedingrods coilovers form Ebay, and all the balljoints and bushings are worn out?

Exactly what I started out trying to say. Oh well if nothing else it good cheap entertainment and will be forgotten again in a day or two. Life goes on.

 

[Paul H.]

He doesn’t have to mention my name to talk bad about me, clearly it was directed at me. Don’t think you’re getting that. And the person told me on Facebook in the comments that aren’t posted, that’s why you can’t see where they told me.

Besides that… 25 grand will get you a lot further than 400. 25 grand could get you to 6-7 no problem.

LOL, dude, as said, I didnt mention your name and I didnt mention what 1 in 1000 3S FakeBook groups it was from. You keep proving my point I pointed out to you there that this is all because your delicate ego got hurt. Man up.

 

[Paul H.]

I remember the good old days when people would argue on car forums about their cars, not their feelings...

Again, basically what I was saying the difference between a forum like this and a FaceBook group. This was my first experience with a facebook car group and its seems to be filled with egos and drama and of course they have their little clicks. Not my first experience with FB so I should not have been surprised.

Its nice coming here for what matters, answers and to help people looking for answers.

 

[Paul H.]

dude, he made this comment before I was ever here. It was about me before I showed up and seen this thread actually. He came to the forums to make a post. Not going to let someone talk about me without me joining in on it.

I came here to to make a post about you? There is that Ego thing again. lol I'm here several times a week or day since before 1999 and I guarantee you it has nothing to do with you and as pointed out many times no one even knew who you were or what group it was until you came here to "Defend yourself" (Hows that going so far?) and prove me right. Thank you.

I know its tough but if you could remove yourself from the who equation you would see my post was about Facebook social media groups in general and not about you personally. Thus why I didnt name names or the group.

All this over reaction and hurt ego is the reason I called you a kid. Doesnt matter what toys you have but the level of maturity on how you react when someone has a different opinion than yourself. It was easy to see what was going to happen every step of the way after your first response so at that point it was all just a game. Thanks for playing. Hopefully as time goes on you wont take everything so personally especially when it really doesn't even have anything to do with you since you weren't even the one who created the animation, right?

So, from now on we can either play nice and not get bent out of shape so easily or you can put me on your ignore list.

 

[Paul H.]

Ngl i think its pretty lame that you had to make a whole ass thread on here about a 3S animation on FB where everybody roasted you lmao. Should've just left it as is after your first few comments. Think and take a step back. Who REALLY got their feelings hurt? lol

That being said I do agree with most people here. FB car pages are a cesspool. Tough to serch anything, same ol silly questions, its very annoying. I do miss the days when the forums where poppin. But at the same time there are some brilliant minds and ideas floating around there so thats pretty much the only positive.

Your not wrong. In hind sight it probably would have been better forgotten but I wanted to find out what others though in general about FB groups like that and what their experience was. I just though the circumstances of my experience was funny especially the whole mighty Ego part how he told me his is "Known" there (not sure what for) and how he could remove my post if he wanted (obviously doesn't understand how FB works) and because a couple of his minions came to his defense he felt he was the sh*t! lol It was just funny to me so I wanted to share the experience and see if others had similar. Seems they have.

I agree there are a few positive points due to a larger number of people and parts. That being said I plan on posting about a manufactured from the group and some parts I think some of our members have been looking for later.

I also miss the days of 100s of post a day in this forum and its laid out 100x better than the FB groups. Its easy for good information to get lost or missed in the cluster on FB

 

[Paul H.]

I 100% don’t have a problem or hard feelings with you at all. I just thought it was immature to come here and post this thread. And yes Paul clearly you made this thread because of me… if our little argument on Facebook never happened you wouldn’t have made this post. Also I never said I could remove your posts. I said, I could remove your comments because it was on my post. But anyway I very well could have taken the criticism to seriously and should of just let it blow over yes. But at the end of the day the comments weren’t needed and neither did you need to come here and talk about me on the forums is all I was trying to prove here. But anyways Paul I hope u have a good day, rather just drop the argument and have less hate between us 3S members👍

You just don't give up on proving me right and making it about YOU. No one new you until you came here and made it about you. LoL

It's amazing you can't see the simple logic behind this even though several have explained it to you and yet you tried to make fun of me for not understanding how your animation was supposed to bounce and wobble? 🤣

 

[Paul H.]

Paul, I don’t think you get it. Yes people knew it was about me…. It was literally brought to my attention that this thread was made about me. I didn’t find this…. I was told by someone. All I was saying is that your comments weren’t needed and neither was this post.

Also, I am not making fun of you, that’s lame. You just said things I thought were disrespectful and I spoke on it. Never was I trying to make fun of you. As I said I’m willing to put this behind us and just drop it… anyways I hope u have a good day.

You really aren't the brightest are you. Someone who is part of that fb group who saw or comments and is part of this forum is the only person that knew and informed you but still no names were mentioned until you decided to introduce yourself to all 599 people who have viewed this post on the forum. 🤣🤣🤣

So it was disrespectful for me to say I thought it would be more cool if it didn't bounce so much and the wheels didn't wobble? Does it bounce and the wheels wobble? Yes. LoL

God this is funny but it's gone from being some harness fun to sort of pathetic. I'm starting to feel guilty for arguing with someone who possibly has a learning disability or is just I'll equipped to think logically.

I think I'm done. It's getting boring repeating myself. I feel like I'm having to explain it to a 4yr old.

4000+ post and my first bit of drama on the forum thanks to Facebook. I shouldn't be surprised. LoL

 

[Paul H.]

I didnt read to the end of your post. my bad.

yes good idea to let it end

 

[Paul H.]

Yes, you can learn new things from Facebook. I won't argue that it's extremely inefficient, meaning you have to skip over a ton of crap and nonsense versus the amount of stuff that is useful.

For example:
Someone recently posted a picture of a screw in the tread area of a tire and asked why a Service Center refused to plug or patch the tire. The Service Center (or someone that responded in the post) said it was illegal to repair a hole that was in an outer section of the tread. I don't know about the legality, but apparently it is an industry recommendation or standard, that holes can only be repaired if smaller than 1/4" diameter and in the center area of the tread as shown below. This was news to me, I thought anywhere in the tread area was ok.
Where I got the pic from:
Tire Industry Association

To me even that sounds like it should or could have been a fun discussion but the problem it seems is with a lot of Facebook groups someone will end up taking it as a personal attack And then everything goes sideways.

 

[Paul H.]

Gummy plugs

Yup, I carry those in all vehicles just in case.

 

[Paul H.]

K

damn i'm late to the party. FB is dumb (but great for finding and organizing events). 3si is dead (this post is the most action in awhile). and both of you are silly.

I disagree with 3SI being dead. 90% of Google search brings you back here and this is the place to find any real fix it type information.
FB there is no organization to replies.

 

[Paul H.]

but how many FB guys search google? The answer is almost zero based on what I see in 3S, DSM, and many LS groups I'm in....so not exclusive to 3Sers. (they don't search the groups they are in also.) It is what it is. The good ole days of forums being the hot bed of new info, shit talking, new dynos, record breaking ET runs, etc,,,,,,,,is over.

Definitely great archive of info. I still use them to search. (3si, dsmtuners, ls1tech, yellowbullet etc)

I send 3S people here all the time when they DM me on FB with questions because people think I'm their personal google.

Yeah you are probably right and that adds even more to the confusion.

I've seen that too many times myself. They have no idea how to search or research. Damn what would happen if they had to use a book or manual?

 

[Paul H.]

Generation X here.

We all like to give the next gen a hard time but it all depends on the person and upbringing.

When I was in my 20s I worked with a bunch of old times and kids my age in plaster and plastics (plaster, fiberglass, graphite and metal) tooling/fabrication.

I was told the older guys would not share their secrets or teach us younger guys anything. I found it just the opposite and was told by them it was because I didn't act like I knew everything and was willing to listen. of forse then I was called a suck up by my peers. LoL

 

[Paul H.]

Well all that being said I don't think my frustration and entertainment with the FB group was unjustified and I'm not alone.

If I posted the PM from one of his cronies I recieved here it would really have you scratching your head.

They need to learn to share the drugs. LoL