They can be quick, but it's that mentality that keeps them behind.933000 said:they wont be the little 3/s when one kicks your ass. those things can be fast as hell.
More like $1200 in mods (if you do the labor yourself, why wouldnt you?)BudhaThrilla said:90-94 5spd AWD E/T/L cars $4-5K with a $2500 in mods will run mid 12s all day long. That's enough to beat or keep up with any bpu TT 3S cars anyday in the 1/4 mile. It will eat the TT stockers for sure.
95-99 turbo models are easily modded too and will run the same time but risk of getting crank walk is high. Two of my friends have them right now.
Yes i have own a few DSM cars.
John M can back me up on this one
Please research things you say before you try to explain things you dont know shit about. $1200 bucks can put a FWD or an AWD DSM into the mid 12's, dont believe me? Call up buschur racing, even check their website under "Power Stages". If your friend with the 1g cant get into the 12's, he needs to learn how to tune his car, or learn to drive. obviously theres something holding him back, because he has all the parts for speed. There was a 9 seconds talon, then he went into the 8's. He doesnt need nitrous to spool the turbo, he just uses it to help spool sooner. It is owned by Sean Glazer of Extreme Motorsports,(they havnt updated thier site with the 8 second run yet) There is also a tube chassis RWD 4g63 powered talon by Buschur Racing, im not sure of the 1/4 times, but they can easily be found. I still dont understand why you say the T/E/L arent as fast as the 3S, they are faster, and have more potential. As a previous owner of a 93 GSX and now a 91 VR4, for racing, ill take the GSX, for a 200 mile drive, ill take my VR4.starfish said:WHOA......so your saying that 1200 dollars in parts can put a talon in the mid 12's? your smoking crack! I know a guy here who has a 1g talon with a shit load of mods. big 16g, fmic, just about everything you can think of including cams and camgears. He runs a cosistant 13.1. He bought alot of his mods from a 2g eclipse awd, and he ran a 12.7 with about the same things. elevation makes some differience, but 1200 will not put a talon in mid 12's. I beat him to 115 by 2 cars when I only had intake and gutted cat. Now I SMOKE him. and I'm bpu, and he is fully modded. I have to disagree with everyone. There is a 9 second talon out there, (the only one by the way) that has a huge turbo and needs nitrous just to spool the turbo. and it does it with a 200 shot sprayed 2 times in a quater. The eclipse and talon are fast cars, not as fast as a 3s. (according to my experiences) Around here, thats all everyone has. yet no one is touching me.