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Today sucked. I was driving in the rain and civics and base camaros were passing me. My car can't accelarate worth shit in the rain. I felt like i was driving miss daisy. I know the AWD don't have this problem, but is there anything i can do?
 
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dave1003 said:
is there anything i can do?
I have a vry simple solution: Get a VR-4/TT....:D
Believe me,driving AWD in the rain is a blast!I feel much much
safer and confident.

On a serious note,get yourself a good set of winter tires, especially for your front wheels.
 

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While I have a VR4 I can offer you these thoughts:

1) How you drive (I'm not suggesting you're a bad driver this is just one of the factors)- hopefully you understand that you must make some adjustments when driving in the wet. You need to accelerate more smoothly to let the tires get grip before pushing it. You will have less grip in corners, when changing lanes etc. so you have to time the movements to allow them to be more fluid and less abrupt. This isn't rocket science, even the AWD cars have limits and you'd be a fool not to adjust to the conditions. There are driving schools (i.e.- Skip Barber) that can teach you to be a better driver in a variety of conditions.

2) Tires- the most likely culprit. Some tires are not very good in the wet. Brand new tires and very worn tires will not perform that well. A tire with good wet weather characteristics and more than 500 miles (mold release agent worn off) but less than the mileage at which it drops below 5/32" of tread will perform the best. You can look at the rating of tires in the wet at places like tirerack.com (there are better sources but this is quick and easy).
Also remember that larger tires (performance tires) can actually hurt rather than help the wet weather issues as they can be more prone to hydroplaning.
A tire that is optimal for the rim size and has the shortest sidewall will tend to exhibit less flex and be more responsive.

3) Suspension- you can change struts, springs, sway bars and add strut bars to improve the vehicles handling.

My primary interest is in wet weather handling, I'm not a drag race kind of person, I like hitting the twisting country roads.

I've changed my wheels to 19x9 and put on Toyo Proxes T1-S tires in a 255/35/19. These are the best rated wet weather performance tires in several tests. The size is optimal for the rim to eliminate sidewall flex.

I went to Eibach Pro-kit springs and added a Cusco Rear Strut bar. The improvements are noticeable.

I have a front strut bar on the way and will look next at the sway bars. Sway bars on the AWD cars are expesive, not a lot of choice and headache to install. It will be easier on the NA cars.

Hope this helps.

Chris
1994 VR4
 

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Learning to drive properly is a lot cheaper than buying a new car. I have very little problem with my car in the rain, and I've got well over 300 hp. You just have to drive for the conditions.
 

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Yes, I guess the most likely solution is to get new tires. I was racing my dad home yesterday in my SL against his VR4. That thing has the best traction i've ever seen. I believe my tires need to be changed, even though they have about %50 life left, they get some wheelspin even when i'm driving in normal conditions when the rpm gets high. What type of tires do you guys recommend. The ones I have right now are bf goodrich comp T/A. Also, what do you guys do 0-60 in in an SL. I did 7.3.
 

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I'll let others (those with SL's) tell you what works for tires with those models.

I can tell you that the BFG Comp TA'a are reasonably good dry road tires but well known as lousy in the wet.

Chris
1994 VR4
 
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