you can still row through the gears on a VR4. you just dont take it up past 3-4K before you shift. I cruise around town (35mph speed limit) generally in 4th gear without any problems. the engine makes enough torque, even at low RPMs that it has no problem at that speed. even going up a hill, unless its a steep one, it does fine.Lots of oooh's, shaking my head in amazement, mhm's, nodding my head, and yeps. The gearing isn't what I'd prefer if I had my ultimate choice, kind of sad really that 4th gear is 160 in a tt (what about 5th? lol). It's kind of sad because I'll never know 1st hand... it's there, but just staring at me like a tease. I figured one day to get a vr4, but... not so much maybe. Maybe for the AWD yeah, but not so much for playing through all the gears. Since I never drove a tt, was really curious to hear from those who do. That is really really interesting info there. amazed honestly. Big thanks for sharing!!!
What? I believe you are mistaken good Sir. The 5-speed's superiority is that its gears are very long; the MR gearing is shorter than the US 6-speed (which is already shorter than the 5-speed). Also, 6th gear in the MR is almost the same ratio as 5th in the 5-speeds. Overall you really gain the best of neither world...Just rock an MR 6speed. You get the superior 5 speed gearing, with the gas sipping cruising ability of the 6 speed. Best of both worlds.
This Thank you for taking the time to post this, too.I had options a couple of years ago.
Option 1 stick with the 5 speed.
Option 2 take the 6 speed from my wrecked 94 and donate it to the 93 and do the mr conversion.
Option 3 go full us 6 speed conversion.
I asked Matt Monet, Ray Pampena, and Chris Hill what shoul d I do for a dd that was sporting evo 3's and 500-600 awhp.
They all said without hesitation, stick with the 5 speed as they all het the same gas mileage at the speed limit. Only while breaking the speed limit does the us 6 speed take a advantage. In the quarter the 5 speed has the advantage on the rest down the track but the shorter gearing helps the launch. Overall down the track is better. Chris even stated once he believed t4 would have been faster had it had a 5 speed in it.
I've been living a lie this whole time.What? I believe you are mistaken good Sir. The 5-speed's superiority is that its gears are very long; the MR gearing is shorter than the US 6-speed (which is already shorter than the 5-speed). Also, 6th gear in the MR is almost the same ratio as 5th in the 5-speeds. Overall you really gain the best of neither world...
The real advantage of the MR 6-speed is acceleration, as all the gearing is short (at least in comparison to the US versions). I'm sure it's a blast to drive with a lightly modified VR4, but once you're making real power you'll want the longer gearing. My Talon's short gears were really fun when the car was near stock, but at 300awhp it burns through the gears so fast I feel like I need a ratchet-shifter...
As for 80mph in 2nd, totally reasonable. Granted though you'll be right at the stock 7272rpm rev limiter. The 5-speed gearing is just ridiculously tall; especially compared to my DD. Having driven the Talon for years, it still feels very weird to get on the express-way with the Stealth in 2nd...
If you take care of it THIS wont happen not to mention that its not even worth converting the whole car...or even just the engine.Pfft, that explains why my Dad pleaded and begged me to not get the vr4 and swore & promised the SL would do. Been thinking when the engine finally goes THEN I'll mod & upgrade everything. 80 in 2nd, even 75, sweet...
Tryin' to take care of it yeah, and a spare engine off a totaled 47k just in case. I got nervous when it turned over 200k, but 250k+ and still a good engine. The electrical is killin me at the moment though.If you take care of it THIS wont happen not to mention that its not even worth converting the whole car...or even just the engine.
Buy a VR4 unless you like long projects with random amounts of cutting and welding.