Chicago Crew Thread #2

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by sluggo

Sorry, I should have mentioned...It will be handguns. Me with a Rugar .22 Mark IV pistol and he with a Berretta 9mm.

There are many indoor ranges that are good. I go to GAT because it’s close to me. Bring your own ammo…. Your friend should know pistol ranges in the area or you can search the internet.

Originally Posted by saiyin car

Cameron could give you some good advice to hone your shooting skills

Yes I can. Practice. Alot. And when you have practiced alot, practice some more.

Really it depends on what you’re practicing for. What’s your end goal? Do you want to be able to defend yourself at home? Then get a shotgun. Or a short barreled double action pistol. 9mm to .45 is fine. It really doesn’t make a difference. Usual just brandishing the gun will cause the intruder to run. If not, two or three rounds impacting center mass will usually case him to seriously regret coming into your house.

If you want to learn to shoot well just for the fun of it, practice a couple of times a month at the local range. The gun you use is a personal choice. Usual a smaller caliber is preferred as it is cheaper to keep feed and, since your just shooting for the fun of it, you don’t need a fancy gun.

If you want to learn to be competitive, go to the pistol range once or twice a week and shoot 50 to 100 rounds each visit. Join a club like the USPSA (United States practical Shooting Association) and ask tons of questions. There is a lot more to being good at shooting then just pointing and pulling a trigger.

Most people serious about competitive shooting will easily shoot 10,000 rounds a year. Obviously you don’t need to go there. At least not at first. If you go to the range with someone who is truly a good shot, ask for some advice. How to hold the weapon, breathing, squeezing the trigger, sighting the target.

As for what type of gun to get, that also depends on what your going to use it for.

I have never been a fan of Beretta cause I don’t like plastic guns. But, my brother just got the Px4 Storm and it felt nice in my hands. It shot well but I cant stand the sights. You can always change them so that shouldn’t be a deciding factor.

If you are going to shoot competitively, you must get a 1911 style hand gun. They are available in slim and wide bodied configuration and many manufactures offer a version of the 1911. My favorite is the Springfield TGO. I have a TGO2 Rob Leatham and it rocks. I prefer .45 but .40 Smith & Wesson is rapidly gaining popularity.

I now return you to your car forum.

[saiyin car]

Originally Posted by RoVR4

Andy,
Beretta's are quality products, well made and great service history despite what internet "experts" may say. The limitiation of the 9mm in service is the FMJ round being an amemic "manstopper" but I digress.

i never said anything bad about the barretta, you always confuse what i say...

what i said was i would rather take the Barretta (in my personal oppinion) to clean over the Rugar... now with that being said the Rugars (in my personal opinion) is a much more accurate gun from the factory with 0 modifications made... it depends on what you are giong for low mantinence or high accuracy... (again in my personal opinion)

now i am, in contrast to Cameron, a fan of Polymer handguns they, are lighter, and they feel good in my hand. i have the Glock 19 it is a very good weapon, extremly accurate and reliable, and easy as hell to clean... i get best of both worlds... now on the more expensive end but hey i got what i wanted


now for PD hunting... i know at least Cameron and you will apprciate this...

"BOOOOM HEAD SHOT!" when are we going? you set it up and im there!

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by RoVR4

Oh one last thing....Andy I know some places in North Dakota to go P-dog hunting but man....I really want to go but its a freaking long ass drive

Originally Posted by saiyin car

now for PD hunting... i know at least Cameron and you will apprciate this...

"BOOOOM HEAD SHOT!" when are we going? you set it up and im there!

I have been wanting to do that for a long time. Lets do it this spring

[saiyin car]

Originally Posted by Cameron

I have been wanting to do that for a long time. Lets do it this spring

FINE but your not using my PD cannon get yoru own

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by saiyin car

FINE but your not using my PD cannon get yoru own

[RoVR4]

Andy....its Ruger, not Rugar
The 92 series (Beretta) isn't that hard to clean, it breaks down to 7 major parts.


Eric,
Most Beretta's are alloy pistols and not polymers....the PX models are polymer but the 92F and 96 family are all metal.

The 1911 style pistols are slowly losing ground to other models.....you dont necessarily need a 1911 or a .45 to compete....just find a class you feel comfortable in.

Its a shame that my XD is in the ESP class (they classify the XD as a single action while the glock, though striker fired is a quasi-DAO)


Eric...check out the Wilson Combat KZ-45
it may change your mind on poly guns..its a poly 1911..12+1 capacity...very very sweet...and for 1100+ it better be.

[saiyin car]

Originally Posted by Cameron

what swith the sad faces... that just gives you an excuse to buy one for yourself.. or get on it and buy that .308 onsteroids you are always drooling about...

[saiyin car]

Originally Posted by RoVR4

Andy....its Ruger, not Rugar
The 92 series (Beretta) isn't that hard to clean, it breaks down to 7 major parts.

once again you missunderstood what i said.. i think you need to go back and re-read what i wrote.. i said the Beretta is the EASIER gun to clean... plain and simple.. it is however NOT the most accurate... damn BRO all that money and your loosing your mind or at least your eye sight...

oh and i never said i can spell, i will give Cameron a run for his money on "worst speller in the C.C. " any day i had to ask Rochelle how to spell Happy the other day... couldnt remember if it was one p or two

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by RoVR4

Andy....its Ruger, not Rugar
The 92 series (Beretta) isn't that hard to clean, it breaks down to 7 major parts.


Eric,
Most Beretta's are alloy pistols and not polymers....the PX models are polymer but the 92F and 96 family are all metal.

The 1911 style pistols are slowly losing ground to other models.....you dont necessarily need a 1911 or a .45 to compete....just find a class you feel comfortable in.

Its a shame that my XD is in the ESP class (they classify the XD as a single action while the glock, though striker fired is a quasi-DAO)


Eric...check out the Wilson Combat KZ-45
it may change your mind on poly guns..its a poly 1911..12+1 capacity...very very sweet...and for 1100+ it better be.

In the USPSA, over 95% of the competitors in the nationals were using 1911 style guns. Most of them in the .45, some in the .380, some in .40 and a few using 9 and 10mm

The reason the 1911 is the optimal gun for competition is its unparalleled upgradeability. You can take a quality (yet relatively inexpensive) 1911 and, as your skills improve, you can modify it (or have it modified) cheaply. The aftermarket for the 1911 is larger then for any other style gun in the world. They are easy to fix, clean and modify. They can (as evidence by the TGO and others) be very accurate and fast.

If I were in law enforcement, I would not carry one. I would focus on a double action high capacity .40 S&W

[1500awhp]

I wanna see some pics of these guns...