1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 - Page 3 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

JagdStealth · 03-22-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PrometheusX

Does a C4 vette really only run a 14.0@103 stock?

It depends on automatic or manual and what gearing it has out back. They run mid to low 13s at ~105 on average.

Deigea · 03-22-2005, 09:31 AM

I'm 5' 11" and have no troubles at all fitting in. I didn't actually realize my seat could lower until owning the car for about a month, so I'll admit, at first I did think it was a small fit. I'm really suprised though, the 300zx never seemed like that great of a car. Hell, I never actually see any TT 300zxs around here. And I cant believe they didn't like the looks of a 3000gt. I think it might've been the red though, I honestly think they look much better in a grey or black

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oxrageous · 03-22-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JagdStealth

It depends on automatic or manual and what gearing it has out back. They run mid to low 13s at ~105 on average.

I don't think any 1993 Corvettes ran a low 13 bone stock. Everyone has to remember this was TWELVE FREAKING YEARS AGO. Everyone keeps mentally comparing these cars to new ones. These times were blazing for the early '90s.

Disciple · 03-22-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by oxrageous

As far as I know, these guys are professionals and run the quarter mile (as well as the 0-60, etc) several times and pick the best runs of the bunch. I don't think it's a matter of them not knowing how to launch. Now, an argument can be made that these cars are brand new and not nearly broken in yet. Also, there are some cars from the factory that are faster or slower than others...there's no real explanation.

"Professional drivers" yes, but AWD was a relatively new thing back then. I ran consistent 13.6x's and 13.7x's at ~101mph when my car was stock, just a tad better than their 14.1 @ 99

The only review I've ever seen where the author properly launched a vr4 was done by Popular Mechanics, and he got a low 13 out of it.

oxrageous · 03-22-2005, 09:58 AM

I think you define "properly launching" as 6K clutch dumps. Great for 1/4 mile times...too bad you can only do 1-5 launches before the transmission explodes. The DSM had been around for four years before this test...I think these guys had plenty of experience with AWD. I think they got the most out of that particular VR-4. Like I said, some are faster from the factory than others.

Disciple · 03-22-2005, 10:22 AM

No.... I don't. My 60's at that time were barely 1.7s, mostly 1.8s. I am by no means the best driver in the world, and was not doing "6k dumps." My times were still faster, on a tired engine with tired components, than theirs by a considerable amount, and many/most others have the same results.

oxrageous · 03-22-2005, 10:48 AM

I wouldn't consider .3 to .4 seconds a "considerable amount". Some might, I don't. Teeny tiny things come into play when you're talking about a third of a second. Elevation, track conditions, humidity, temperature, I could go on and on. Who's to say you weren't at a much lower elevation? Or at colder temperatures?

EDIT: After re-reading the article, they are at 8000 FEET!

03-22-2005, 09:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
Deigea Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Drives: '94 3000GT VR4 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 I'm 5' 11" and have no troubles at all fitting in. I didn't actually realize my seat could lower until owning the car for about a month, so I'll admit, at first I did think it was a small fit. I'm really suprised though, the 300zx never seemed like that great of a car. Hell, I never actually see any TT 300zxs around here. And I cant believe they didn't like the looks of a 3000gt. I think it might've been the red though, I honestly think they look much better in a grey or black .

03-22-2005, 09:58 AM	#25 (permalink)
oxrageous 2000 C5 M6 Z51 BBQ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Drives: On a black dildo Trader Rating: (1)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 I think you define "properly launching" as 6K clutch dumps. Great for 1/4 mile times...too bad you can only do 1-5 launches before the transmission explodes. The DSM had been around for four years before this test...I think these guys had plenty of experience with AWD. I think they got the most out of that particular VR-4. Like I said, some are faster from the factory than others.

03-22-2005, 10:22 AM	#26 (permalink)
Disciple Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Laurel, MD Drives: '93 VR4 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 No.... I don't. My 60's at that time were barely 1.7s, mostly 1.8s. I am by no means the best driver in the world, and was not doing "6k dumps." My times were still faster, on a tired engine with tired components, than theirs by a considerable amount, and many/most others have the same results.

03-22-2005, 10:48 AM	#27 (permalink)
oxrageous 2000 C5 M6 Z51 BBQ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Drives: On a black dildo Trader Rating: (1)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 I wouldn't consider .3 to .4 seconds a "considerable amount". Some might, I don't. Teeny tiny things come into play when you're talking about a third of a second. Elevation, track conditions, humidity, temperature, I could go on and on. Who's to say you weren't at a much lower elevation? Or at colder temperatures? EDIT: After re-reading the article, they are at 8000 FEET!

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