1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

oxrageous · 03-21-2005, 03:56 PM

I was going over some of my older car magazines, and I stumbled across a few relating to the 3S. I figured most of everyone here would be interested in seeing them, so I'm going to post them. None of the three I found are in the "Library" section of Stealth316.com. The first one is a six-car comparo in Car & Driver September of 1993 between the Corvette, RX-7, Porsche 968, 300ZX Turbo, 3000GT VR-4, and Supra Turbo.

I'm really interested in opinions on this large comparo, so let's have them...the more, the merrier.

I also have some comparos in issues of Motor Trend, April of 1992 and July of 1993. I'll try and get them up soon.

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GreekPower · 03-21-2005, 04:03 PM

kool find sucks the vr4 was 6th place.

Frizzle86 · 03-21-2005, 04:31 PM

cool find, Too bad they did it in 93 and not in 94. It would be intresting to see how the 20 more HP and new style would affected the tester's view of the 3/S

lawdogg · 03-21-2005, 04:40 PM

Well, I like my toupe.

Kibwe Walker · 03-21-2005, 08:45 PM

Swiss army knife. Thats funny. Supra dominated the straightline stuff and at the track. I'll keep my 3s though. I read one a while back with just the 7, a stealth, and the lt1.

I think its a fair assessment of the cars stregnths and weaknesses. Mitsu had a lot of short comings from the factory and the main one was the 9b. Weight aside if they had just used the parts they were already using on the eclipses, the 3s would be seen in a different light today. 14b's or 13g's stock, 450 inj's stock, if if if if if if. Many ifs but I am happy with what they did put out. Slowly but surely there is an aftermarket and we can put on all that stuff ourselves.

Look how far the vette has come since that time. The next zo6 will be 7.0 litres and 500 hp. Supposedly an 11 sec car stock, and the regular c6 is low 12's @ 117 stock. I wonder how much mitsu would have changed since 99 if the vr4 was still going today. Maybe we would have a watered down vr4 comparable to a 350z (300z>350z).

xstealthrtx · 03-21-2005, 09:43 PM

i think i've read about 5 reviews on the VR-4/TT and most of the time people complain about the small cabin and low head room. i don't get it. seems fine to me. are all test drivers 6'5"?! i'm 5'8" (average height for a white male in the US is 5'9") and i have more than enough room. i wish they would stop commenting on the back seats being useless as if it were bad. ofcourse they are useless!!! i don't think the back seats are a determining factor in the purchase of this car.
"well, i was gunna buy it but i just can't due to the fact i can't fit my 4 kids and my golf clubs in the back"

EDIT: oooooook well i just read a bit more and i guess the tallest driver was 6'5". well he should just buy a minivan then. MOST people aren't close to 6'5"

mikes2nd · 03-21-2005, 10:21 PM

realize those guys all owned Z's and the supra was new(buzz) and you end up with your rankings.

yeah it outbraked and out skidpadded the z and out dragged it...

and the stupid "looks" category... The stock Z and supra I consider very bland compared to the 3000gt. I dunno a rx7 i think looks fugly

They call it busy looking.

justatwinturbo · 03-22-2005, 05:03 AM

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are all test drivers 6'5"?!

they were probably 7 foot, cuz im 6'5" and im more cozy in the stealth than any other car i've owned. more leg and head room than my svx, mx6, or imark

PJTocci · 03-22-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by justatwinturbo

they were probably 7 foot, cuz im 6'5" and im more cozy in the stealth than any other car i've owned. more leg and head room than my svx, mx6, or imark

I'm 6'2 and iI have plenty of legroom and headroom even with my sunroof. Ive heard people who are 6'+ complaining of being "squished". WTF are they talking about!? Love my GT. (Esp the stares from just about everyone.)

oxrageous · 03-22-2005, 05:22 AM

I'm 6'3" and no problem. Just tilt the seat back and hair and relax. Do these guys like to sit straight up behind the wheel like a bus driver? That's how women drive.

03-21-2005, 03:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
oxrageous 2000 C5 M6 Z51 BBQ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Drives: On a black dildo Trader Rating: (1)	1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 I was going over some of my older car magazines, and I stumbled across a few relating to the 3S. I figured most of everyone here would be interested in seeing them, so I'm going to post them. None of the three I found are in the "Library" section of Stealth316.com. The first one is a six-car comparo in Car & Driver September of 1993 between the Corvette, RX-7, Porsche 968, 300ZX Turbo, 3000GT VR-4, and Supra Turbo. I'm really interested in opinions on this large comparo, so let's have them...the more, the merrier. I also have some comparos in issues of Motor Trend, April of 1992 and July of 1993. I'll try and get them up soon. http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage1.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage2.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage3.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage4.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage5.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage6.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage7.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage8.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage9.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage10.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage11.jpg http://www.members.aol.com/oxrageous/CDPage12.jpg __________________

03-21-2005, 04:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
GreekPower Team Negro Member #3 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Drives: A BIG Project Trader Rating: (1)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 kool find sucks the vr4 was 6th place. __________________ THE CAR VIDEO KING 1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 76k Sold :crying: 91 Stealth TT 181k! Mods: 15g's, 580cc Injectors, 341FH Pump (Hotwired), Dejon Tool intake pipes, Blitz SBC ID w/ harness, Blitz Power meter, TMO datalogger, ATR (Downpipe, Cat, Exhaust), RPS Clutch, CFDS, SS Shifter, ACCEL 9mm Wires, NGK Plugs, EBC "Red Stuff" Pads, Stillen Rotors, Greddy Type-S BOV, HKS SMIC's, Toyo Tires, Poly Motor Mounts,SS Brake Lines, Gutted Pre Cats..More to come. Now all she needs is a tune. Buying: AEM EMS soon My Car Video Thread 3SI BOOK

03-21-2005, 04:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Frizzle86 3S lacky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Drives: 00 Cougar Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 cool find, Too bad they did it in 93 and not in 94. It would be intresting to see how the 20 more HP and new style would affected the tester's view of the 3/S

03-21-2005, 04:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
lawdogg Wingless 3000GT Club Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Williamsport, PA Drives: The Speed Limit Trader Rating: (54)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 Well, I like my toupe. __________________ 2002 WJ -- 1994 VR-4 -- 1993 ZJ --Canon Rebel XTi

03-21-2005, 08:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kibwe Walker Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashville Drives: 93 RT/tt Trader Rating: (2)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 Swiss army knife. Thats funny. Supra dominated the straightline stuff and at the track. I'll keep my 3s though. I read one a while back with just the 7, a stealth, and the lt1. I think its a fair assessment of the cars stregnths and weaknesses. Mitsu had a lot of short comings from the factory and the main one was the 9b. Weight aside if they had just used the parts they were already using on the eclipses, the 3s would be seen in a different light today. 14b's or 13g's stock, 450 inj's stock, if if if if if if. Many ifs but I am happy with what they did put out. Slowly but surely there is an aftermarket and we can put on all that stuff ourselves. Look how far the vette has come since that time. The next zo6 will be 7.0 litres and 500 hp. Supposedly an 11 sec car stock, and the regular c6 is low 12's @ 117 stock. I wonder how much mitsu would have changed since 99 if the vr4 was still going today. Maybe we would have a watered down vr4 comparable to a 350z (300z>350z). __________________ His - Red 93 RT/tt Mods: Hallman's MBC @ 16 psi psi, turbo XS type H BOV, stillen dp, custom exhaust, Spec stage 2 clutch, RPS FW, 3sx lightweight crank pulley, BCP7RES-11 @ .030 gap, autometer gauges, slightly gutted mas, dsm SMIC's, ACPT 1 piece CFDS, Tein S springs, pte 580 inj's, safc neo/SITC, 13t's, hotwired walbro, maximal performance solid motor mounts, DR plenum spacer. Hers - BPU Green 94 vr4

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03-21-2005, 09:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
xstealthrtx Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CT Drives: 1994 Stealth R/T Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 i think i've read about 5 reviews on the VR-4/TT and most of the time people complain about the small cabin and low head room. i don't get it. seems fine to me. are all test drivers 6'5"?! i'm 5'8" (average height for a white male in the US is 5'9") and i have more than enough room. i wish they would stop commenting on the back seats being useless as if it were bad. ofcourse they are useless!!! i don't think the back seats are a determining factor in the purchase of this car. "well, i was gunna buy it but i just can't due to the fact i can't fit my 4 kids and my golf clubs in the back" EDIT: oooooook well i just read a bit more and i guess the tallest driver was 6'5". well he should just buy a minivan then. MOST people aren't close to 6'5" __________________ 1 of 46

03-21-2005, 10:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
mikes2nd Regulator... Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: OH Trader Rating: (29)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 realize those guys all owned Z's and the supra was new(buzz) and you end up with your rankings. yeah it outbraked and out skidpadded the z and out dragged it... and the stupid "looks" category... The stock Z and supra I consider very bland compared to the 3000gt. I dunno a rx7 i think looks fugly They call it busy looking.

03-22-2005, 05:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
oxrageous 2000 C5 M6 Z51 BBQ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St Lucie, FL Drives: On a black dildo Trader Rating: (1)	Re: 1993 Car & Driver Six Car Comparo Article w/ VR-4 I'm 6'3" and no problem. Just tilt the seat back and hair and relax. Do these guys like to sit straight up behind the wheel like a bus driver? That's how women drive.