Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion - Page 2 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

95red3000gt · 04-30-2004, 02:43 PM

hey man again thanks so much for doin this for us. If you get a chance, I know I at least would greatly appreciate a brief writeup (and I'm pretty sure the rest of the community would appreciate it too

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Import Power · 04-30-2004, 03:54 PM

OK, here is the new photo album, got that fixed. What I may do is write a caption under each pic to describe what is going on. They are in cronological order.

http://importpoweronline.com/ipw-web...y/resistorpack

95red3000gt · 04-30-2004, 11:01 PM

hey did u mention a while back that you sell the tt resistor pack for like 30 bucks or what that somewhere else??

Import Power · 05-01-2004, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 95red3000gt

hey did u mention a while back that you sell the tt resistor pack for like 30 bucks or what that somewhere else??

Nope. I got the resistor pack from RussianVR4's part out along with bunches of other things for the SL-T lie the whole ECU Harness, a CAS, Oil cooler with lines and block attachment.

Mikes95RT · 05-01-2004, 08:59 AM

In the time it took you to do that you could have already replaced the entire NA harness with the TT harness. Then all you would have needed to do is plug in the resistor box. If you were not running a stand alone running the TT ECU stops you from needing a huge correction from a piggy back to get the fuel right. I can run 450cc with about -10% correction. I don't think you can get enough correction out of a NA ECU to run anything larger then 360's. I know this doesn't apply to you because you are going with a stand alone but I don't see why the average Joe would want to run the NA ECU when the TT ECU has been proven to give you 50 H.P. increase by just plugging it in. J.B. saw a 50h.p. increase from the NA ECU to the TT ECU and was able to retune w/o large corrections. Timming advance just blows and when you are running your SAFC at -50% then what would you expect.

Mikes95RT · 05-01-2004, 09:06 AM

In the time it took you to do that you could have already replaced the entire NA harness with the TT harness. Then all you would have needed to do is plug in the resistor box. If you were not running a stand alone running the TT ECU stops you from needing a huge correction from a piggy back to get the fuel right. I can run 450cc with about -10% correction. I don't think you can get enough correction out of a NA ECU to run anything larger then 360's. I know this doesn't apply to you because you are going with a stand alone but I don't see why the average Joe would want to run the NA ECU when the TT ECU has been proven to give you 50 H.P. increase by just plugging it in. J.B. saw a 50h.p. increase from the NA ECU to the TT ECU and was able to retune w/o large corrections. Timming advance just blows and when you are running your SAFC at -50% then what would you expect.

95red3000gt · 05-01-2004, 10:47 PM

I guess I'll start saving up for the TT ecu and harness then... god more money into this never ending project...

Mikes95RT · 05-02-2004, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 95red3000gt

I guess I'll start saving up for the TT ecu and harness then... god more money into this never ending project...

It will make your life so much easier. You will be running with the correct fuel maps and timing. You will be able to run larger the stock turbos and injectors and not run out of correction. If you have too you can connect and run all of your emissions stuff and it will work. I don't doubt the NA ECU works but it wasn't made to compensate for a huge fluctuation in H.P. It was made to run in a set parameter. Close to the 222 stock H.P. level. It has the ability to take some fluctuation but is made to give the cleanest emissions not the highest performance. The TT ECU is made to run from a 8:1 non boost to full on high boost situation and take into consideration emissions. I don't see why people can't understand the basic benefit. Plus 50 proven H.P. is nothing to sneeze at. This probably comes from nothing more then the ECU not over advancing time. Not bashing, either way. But since I was the first to use the TT harness and ECU on the 10:1 boosted motor I would like to think it was the only way to go.

Plus why would J.B. make the jump if the dyno didn't give any proof.

Import Power · 05-04-2004, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes95RT

In the time it took you to do that you could have already replaced the entire NA harness with the TT harness. Then all you would have needed to do is plug in the resistor box. If you were not running a stand alone running the TT ECU stops you from needing a huge correction from a piggy back to get the fuel right. I can run 450cc with about -10% correction. I don't think you can get enough correction out of a NA ECU to run anything larger then 360's. I know this doesn't apply to you because you are going with a stand alone but I don't see why the average Joe would want to run the NA ECU when the TT ECU has been proven to give you 50 H.P. increase by just plugging it in. J.B. saw a 50h.p. increase from the NA ECU to the TT ECU and was able to retune w/o large corrections. Timming advance just blows and when you are running your SAFC at -50% then what would you expect.

The TT harness I had was a 91, and my car is a 93. I wanted to stay with the current 93+ CAS system which many feel is more accurate than the Cam Angle Sensor on 91-92. So in short, this was the easy route

Also, it is easier to get a hold of the resistor pack then an entire harness with the resistor pack. It is also cheaper. So for those looking to save where they can I don't see the problem in doing it this way.

And as mike stated, there is proven power, 40-50HP just in the ecu swap. This is due to correct fuel maps, timing maps, and the way it handles boost. It should not be a consideration, it should be a given. Swap that puppy out. Now for Autos it gets more sticky.

Mikes95RT · 05-04-2004, 06:29 AM

The Auto have to run the NA ECU unless there is a way to find out exactly what the ECU controls on the NA ECU and convert it to to a TT ECU. I wonder how hard it would be to run two harness and two ECU's Use the TT ECU for controlling the motor and run the like or same signals split off to the "dummy" NA ECU which is only going to take info in and the info out will only go to the ATX computer. All of the true info in would be comming in from the same sensors that are feeding the TT ECU but you would need a way for the info out to look as if it were being processed. You wouldn't need any of the NA ECU harness out signal wires from the ECU to the sensors only the in signl wire back to the NA ECU. Maybe it would look like it is being processed even though it isn't going anywhere because the NA ECU would still be processing info from the car running off of the TT ECU. The only info going out from the NA ECU would be to the ATX computer. This would basically turn the NA ECU and ATX ECU into a piggyback system. Its probably just a few simple circuits that could be put in a nice blinking box and sold to the public for the magical sum of $399.

04-30-2004, 02:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
95red3000gt The Math Man Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 6000 ft. ASL Drives: 1995 3000GT FWD-TT Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion hey man again thanks so much for doin this for us. If you get a chance, I know I at least would greatly appreciate a brief writeup (and I'm pretty sure the rest of the community would appreciate it too ) __________________ 1995 3000GT FWD-TT: Sold Motor: 3.1L, Forged Crank, Forged Rods, Ross 93mm Forged Pistons, clevite bearings, custom 3 inch exhaust, K&N cone intake, solid motor mounts, IPO MBC, PTE 550cc injectors, Drivetrain: ACT Maxx clutch, Nitto555R Drag Radials, Kormex LSD Electronics: SAFC II, Autometer EGT/ Boost, LM-1 wideband o2, 95 TT ecu/Harness

04-30-2004, 03:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Import Power Play that Funky Music Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind the Wheel Drives: Vicki Insane Trader Rating: (209)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion OK, here is the new photo album, got that fixed. What I may do is write a caption under each pic to describe what is going on. They are in cronological order. http://importpoweronline.com/ipw-web...y/resistorpack __________________ AEM Factory Trained Tuner T4 AWD 9.21 @ 154.98 T2 FWD 10.19 @ 140.31 T4-159.23 MPH Ran on 6G72 3.1L! T4-995AWHP Uncorrected 6G72 3.0L 91VR4 Red-17Gs w/supporting mods-sold 93SLTT/T2 91VR4 Pearl White-sold 91VR4 Black-sold 92VR4 Sandstone-sold 94VR4 Green-sold 93VR4 Pearl White-currently parting out 91VR4 Black-Currently building "daily Driver" 3SX Performance 3SX Performance Service Email

04-30-2004, 11:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
95red3000gt The Math Man Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 6000 ft. ASL Drives: 1995 3000GT FWD-TT Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion hey did u mention a while back that you sell the tt resistor pack for like 30 bucks or what that somewhere else??

05-01-2004, 09:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mikes95RT Foolish Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rock Hill S.C. Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion In the time it took you to do that you could have already replaced the entire NA harness with the TT harness. Then all you would have needed to do is plug in the resistor box. If you were not running a stand alone running the TT ECU stops you from needing a huge correction from a piggy back to get the fuel right. I can run 450cc with about -10% correction. I don't think you can get enough correction out of a NA ECU to run anything larger then 360's. I know this doesn't apply to you because you are going with a stand alone but I don't see why the average Joe would want to run the NA ECU when the TT ECU has been proven to give you 50 H.P. increase by just plugging it in. J.B. saw a 50h.p. increase from the NA ECU to the TT ECU and was able to retune w/o large corrections. Timming advance just blows and when you are running your SAFC at -50% then what would you expect.

05-01-2004, 10:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
95red3000gt The Math Man Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 6000 ft. ASL Drives: 1995 3000GT FWD-TT Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion I guess I'll start saving up for the TT ecu and harness then... god more money into this never ending project...

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05-04-2004, 06:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mikes95RT Foolish Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rock Hill S.C. Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Saturated to Peak Hold Injector Conversion The Auto have to run the NA ECU unless there is a way to find out exactly what the ECU controls on the NA ECU and convert it to to a TT ECU. I wonder how hard it would be to run two harness and two ECU's Use the TT ECU for controlling the motor and run the like or same signals split off to the "dummy" NA ECU which is only going to take info in and the info out will only go to the ATX computer. All of the true info in would be comming in from the same sensors that are feeding the TT ECU but you would need a way for the info out to look as if it were being processed. You wouldn't need any of the NA ECU harness out signal wires from the ECU to the sensors only the in signl wire back to the NA ECU. Maybe it would look like it is being processed even though it isn't going anywhere because the NA ECU would still be processing info from the car running off of the TT ECU. The only info going out from the NA ECU would be to the ATX computer. This would basically turn the NA ECU and ATX ECU into a piggyback system. Its probably just a few simple circuits that could be put in a nice blinking box and sold to the public for the magical sum of $399.