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lucko247 · 09-17-2003, 05:32 PM

its not necessarily bad ur pistons with the holes were the oil goes through needs to be bigeer it wont screw ur engine up but in the future ull want to get the 99 pistons with bigger holes in them thats what i did

yellowVR4 · 09-17-2003, 07:55 PM

Hey you guys know about this? www.3kgtmotorsports.com they sell the header and downpipe combo for our car at a reasonable price for a 3k. They also have the cams for about $500. Anybody know what launching will be like with a twin turbo conversion and a limited slip? Wheel spin till 2nd gear?

973000GTSL · 09-17-2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by yellowVR4
Hey you guys know about this? www.3kgtmotorsports.com they sell the header and downpipe combo for our car at a reasonable price for a 3k. They also have the cams for about $500. Anybody know what launching will be like with a twin turbo conversion and a limited slip? Wheel spin till 2nd gear?

You find 1200 dollars reasonable

I think they are a rip off. Launching with a TT conversion sucks. I know Ty gets like 2.8 60 ft times, but more then makes up for it when he locks up

IronFish · 09-18-2003, 12:03 AM

The 3kgt headers are NOT worth $1200...Trust me

yellowVR4 · 09-18-2003, 10:33 AM

I admit that's a ridiculous price for headers, but everything has a ridiculous price for the 3k. Know any place to get headers for cheaper?

VRMAN · 09-18-2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by yellowVR4
I admit that's a ridiculous price for headers, but everything has a ridiculous price for the 3k. Know any place to get headers for cheaper?

Rasheed at 3KGTmotorsports has spent alot of time on his products, and his headers look very nice.

pony up that 1200 and get a set.

DuTTch · 01-10-2004, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthCRF

hey green you wouldn't happen to live around plano/frisco would you? i always see a nice rt cruising around there

Hey Colby and Mike, u know , u 2 have met right, we all met up once in the colony!

Oh and there is a guy in north dallas that built his own headers and claimed to have 320 HP on his N/A without nos. I will e-mail him and maybe he can rspond to this thread from yoghurt (dutch spelling!)

<T> · 01-11-2004, 08:47 PM

okay I didn't read all 12 pages of this, but had a few comments on the list:
First off very good, but you missed out on some important power adders:

1. Higher compression/bored out pistons... good for at least 10hp to the wheels

2. Camshafts - this one is HUGE and considering you have NOS and TT and port-and-polish on the list, this can't be forgotten. Good for at least 40hp to the ground.

3. Bigger valves - no defenite number here, works with other parts for additive results. If you have an air intake, cams and gears, this is another 10hp to the wheel rough estimate.

4. I was going to say higher tension valve springs but realized I shold sum all these up into "Heads" upgraded heads all together can get you AT LEAST 50-60hp to the wheels

5. Those "fags" who say underdrive pulleys are dangerous are every engine builder and automotive engineer. Mach V motorsports even had an employee who's crankshaft broke in half because of one. Even NASCARs use dampners, HEAVY ones at that

The only people defending underdrive pulleys are people selling them, and people who are uninformed. Sorry, no one with credentials will agree with you (again, unless they are associated with the companies that sell them)

ewang9394 · 01-29-2004, 04:40 AM

OMG....Dayum....I spent an hour just reading through the total 23 pages of this thread. Yogurt's list was helpful as it points out some of the basic mods to improve the NA. The rest of the thread was annoying but funny to read.

Anyway, I read that UDP causes the lights to dim. Why is that? Is that bad? What do you guys think of the Unorthodox underdrive pulley? The previous owner had it installed when I bought the car from him. If it just dims the lights but doens't cause any damage to anything then I'm cool with it.

To Yogurt -- You mentioned that you sell or make custom exhausts for $425....Do you happen to have some pictures of it and how much HP gain it offers to the wheels?

Thanks,
Ed

<T> · 01-29-2004, 07:07 PM

Underdrive pulleys do just what the name says, they underdrive the alternator. the alternator doesn't turn as fast, so it doesn't generate as much power for a small hp gain. This is why your lights dim, they aren't getting as much power... Your lights should only dim at idle, however.

The problem is that they shorten the life of your engine, despite what uneducated enthusiasts say... if you don't believe me, read this:
http://dinancars.com/html/danger_of_power_pulleys.htm

Nuff said

09-18-2003, 12:03 AM	#224 (permalink)
IronFish Q-Bert Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford IL Drives: 1991 3000GT SL Trader Rating: (1)	Headers The 3kgt headers are NOT worth $1200...Trust me __________________ 1991 3000GT SL ENGINE: 3.1L (bored .030), wiseco forged pistons, rebuilt heads with 5 angle valve job and '99 lifters, fidanza cam gears, webcams street-grind cams, Precision Turbo 525cc injectors, ported upper and lower intake plenum, UDP, 3KGT full length headers, 3KGT downpipe, test pipe, flowmaster 42 series, KN air filter with intake pipe, Maximal solid motor mounts, SAFC II, RIPP SDS (uninstalled) SUSPENSION: 3sx front and rear strut bars, Addco front and rear sway bars, Tein Coilover system BRAKES: Stillen brake pads, Stillen cross drilled rotors, 3sx SS brake lines, TRANNY: Complete Rebuild by IPT, ElectroMatic Shift Box, 3200 stall Torque Converter, IPT valve body w/shift kit, alto end clutch, Kormex LSD EXTERIOR: 17x8 Chrome Eagle 077s wrapped in Toyo Proxes, clear corner front turn signals

01-11-2004, 08:47 PM	#228 (permalink)
<T> What have we here Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Drives: a cash vacuum Trader Rating: (0)	Re: N/A UPGRADE BIBLE. wish i had this when i was a NOOB. okay I didn't read all 12 pages of this, but had a few comments on the list: First off very good, but you missed out on some important power adders: 1. Higher compression/bored out pistons... good for at least 10hp to the wheels 2. Camshafts - this one is HUGE and considering you have NOS and TT and port-and-polish on the list, this can't be forgotten. Good for at least 40hp to the ground. 3. Bigger valves - no defenite number here, works with other parts for additive results. If you have an air intake, cams and gears, this is another 10hp to the wheel rough estimate. 4. I was going to say higher tension valve springs but realized I shold sum all these up into "Heads" upgraded heads all together can get you AT LEAST 50-60hp to the wheels 5. Those "fags" who say underdrive pulleys are dangerous are every engine builder and automotive engineer. Mach V motorsports even had an employee who's crankshaft broke in half because of one. Even NASCARs use dampners, HEAVY ones at that The only people defending underdrive pulleys are people selling them, and people who are uninformed. Sorry, no one with credentials will agree with you (again, unless they are associated with the companies that sell them) __________________ On slight hiatus again, bad timing...

01-29-2004, 04:40 AM	#229 (permalink)
ewang9394 will work for turbo Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Plumas Lake, CA Drives: 1996 DOHC NA 5spd Trader Rating: (3)	Re: N/A UPGRADE BIBLE. wish i had this when i was a NOOB. OMG....Dayum....I spent an hour just reading through the total 23 pages of this thread. Yogurt's list was helpful as it points out some of the basic mods to improve the NA. The rest of the thread was annoying but funny to read. Anyway, I read that UDP causes the lights to dim. Why is that? Is that bad? What do you guys think of the Unorthodox underdrive pulley? The previous owner had it installed when I bought the car from him. If it just dims the lights but doens't cause any damage to anything then I'm cool with it. To Yogurt -- You mentioned that you sell or make custom exhausts for $425....Do you happen to have some pictures of it and how much HP gain it offers to the wheels? Thanks, Ed __________________ K&N FIPK\|3SX front & rear polyeurathane motor mounts\|3SX downpipe\|Maximal Performance testpipe\|Unorthodox under drive pulley\|HKS dual SS exhaust\|NGK platinum spark plugs\|NGK spark plug wires\|Maximal Performance wire kit\|ACT stage 2 semi-racing clutch\|Tein Flex complete coilovers\|3SX front tower bar\|Cusco rear tower bar\|custom rear sway bar\|18x9.5 Bronze 5zigen FN01C-R\|265/35/18 Toyo Proxes R888 semi-slick tires\|Bomex front lip spoiler\|GTO MR Titanium shift knob\|custom short throw shifter\|Razo pedals\| Momo Tuner steering wheel\|Corbeau CR1 racing seats\|Corbeau 4pt racing harness\|Stoptech 4-piston 328x28 Big Brake Kit\|Deftracing 575 Carbon Fiber hood\|Koyo radiator\|

01-29-2004, 07:07 PM	#230 (permalink)
<T> What have we here Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Drives: a cash vacuum Trader Rating: (0)	Re: N/A UPGRADE BIBLE. wish i had this when i was a NOOB. Underdrive pulleys do just what the name says, they underdrive the alternator. the alternator doesn't turn as fast, so it doesn't generate as much power for a small hp gain. This is why your lights dim, they aren't getting as much power... Your lights should only dim at idle, however. The problem is that they shorten the life of your engine, despite what uneducated enthusiasts say... if you don't believe me, read this: http://dinancars.com/html/danger_of_power_pulleys.htm Nuff said

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09-17-2003, 05:32 PM	#221 (permalink)
lucko247 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	its not necessarily bad ur pistons with the holes were the oil goes through needs to be bigeer it wont screw ur engine up but in the future ull want to get the 99 pistons with bigger holes in them thats what i did

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09-17-2003, 07:55 PM	#222 (permalink)
yellowVR4 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Trader Rating: (2)	Hey you guys know about this? www.3kgtmotorsports.com they sell the header and downpipe combo for our car at a reasonable price for a 3k. They also have the cams for about $500. Anybody know what launching will be like with a twin turbo conversion and a limited slip? Wheel spin till 2nd gear?

09-18-2003, 10:33 AM	#225 (permalink)
yellowVR4 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Trader Rating: (2)	I admit that's a ridiculous price for headers, but everything has a ridiculous price for the 3k. Know any place to get headers for cheaper?