Ips Fmic - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

cjbyron · 09-21-2006, 09:50 AM

This kit states perfect fit on the vendors website. Far from it.

The kit took 7 weeks to arrive after numerous excuses.

No instructions available, vendor very hard to reach.

Oil cooler has to be relocated, shift linkage counterweight must be removed, and other minor mods to make fit. Vendor never mentions any of this. Vendor mentions removing carbon cannister - not needed, doesn't interfere with cannister.

Pipes do not fit a 2G (1995) w/ 6 speed tranny & A/C. Pipe will hit transmission and linkage (even without CW) hits the pipe. Needs 1/4"+ dent in pipe to make linkage clear for 2,4,6,reverse.

I had to cut and reweld the pipes that go in and out of the core. Angle was all wrong. Many hours of redoing the angles and welds.

Front turbo pipe - hits radiator hose, creates small kink (needs about 1" better clearance). Again, just poor design on bend. Fix - cut and extend radiator hose so it isn't jammed against fnt turbo pipe (or rebend the pipe).

Welds were poor and also leaked. Rear turbo pipe adapter weld doesn't allow a coupler seal, Must be ground down. Rear turbo pipe also sticks up too far making it hit the hood (can close the hood but it will hit your heatshield).

No vacuum nipple at TB elbow. You must put in your own.

Pipes hit bumper without modifications to pipes or shaving bumper.

Pipes arrived full of polishing compound and aluminum shavings. Several large AL shards also stuck into pipe (not good for your engine eh?). Several areas had burrs hanging on and needed to be de-burred, cleaned up.

Kit arrived short of 1/2 the hose clamps needed and missing 2 couplers. Took a week to get vendor to send the couplers.

Kit rating 1-10 with 10 being the best : 3
Vendor rating: 3
Buy again? : No, never

NOMIEZVR-4 · 09-21-2006, 09:56 AM

ouch...thats a harsh review..

cjbyron · 09-21-2006, 10:02 AM

Intended to just be factual. This was my experience with this kit. Kept as short as possible with just the facts. Harsh only because of the reality of poor quality control and the entire item having to be redone after paying $1700 for something that claimed online to be "perfect fit".

Others may experience better fit (ie , 1G, etc). I dunno.

Roger Ludwig · 09-21-2006, 10:25 AM

Ouch.... tell it like it is baby!

IPSjeff · 09-21-2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOMIEZVR-4

ouch...thats a harsh review..

Actually, I was expecting a -3 from Craig so that was MUCH better than I expected

There are many others (both installed before and after his) that have a wee bit different opinion so he is more than welcome to his

Jeff

Roger Ludwig · 09-21-2006, 11:15 AM

Dude, there is no way that someone as technically competent as Craig is making this up, how about owning up to it and admitting you have a lousy setup for a second gen.
Whatever...

IPSjeff · 09-21-2006, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Ludwig

Dude, there is no way that someone as technically competent as Craig is making this up, how about owning up to it and admitting you have a lousy setup for a second gen.
Whatever...

Had I not had my clean-up kid (not even close to a tech) install one a BONE STOCK 94 (I believe that qualifies as a 2nd gen?) in an afternoon I would happily

I had two techs and myself inspect it afterwards and it passed with flying colors

However, I wasnt talking about cars here since of course I would say that...
Jeff

Roger Ludwig · 09-21-2006, 11:34 AM

OK, well I guess Craig really is an idiot and is making this up to slander you because he doesn't like you, I knew it!!

cjbyron · 09-21-2006, 02:23 PM

As usual the vendor retorts with what he thinks is funny comebacks. You're correct Roger that I have nothing personal (I don't even know the guy) and he's been paid.

For other members I reported my experience with this product. As well there were other 3000GT owners and knowledgeable people at my shop that saw the very same thing as reported above. Pretty simple really.

The vendor would have one think it was the customer that either made it all up (for what motive? It's paid for.) or is a fool.

So, those looking for a review of the product can take it however they want it. The above review is for the IPS FMIC kit as received in August 2006 from IPS Motorsports.

This forum exists to report product reviews. Not just favorable reviews. This is my review and is 100% factual.

TrAb · 11-18-2006, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjbyron

The kit took 7 weeks to arrive after numerous excuses.

What else is new? This is IPS's life story...

09-21-2006, 09:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
cjbyron Forum user Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Drives: 1995 VR4 -Orig.Owner Trader Rating: (1)	Ips Fmic This kit states perfect fit on the vendors website. Far from it. The kit took 7 weeks to arrive after numerous excuses. No instructions available, vendor very hard to reach. Oil cooler has to be relocated, shift linkage counterweight must be removed, and other minor mods to make fit. Vendor never mentions any of this. Vendor mentions removing carbon cannister - not needed, doesn't interfere with cannister. Pipes do not fit a 2G (1995) w/ 6 speed tranny & A/C. Pipe will hit transmission and linkage (even without CW) hits the pipe. Needs 1/4"+ dent in pipe to make linkage clear for 2,4,6,reverse. I had to cut and reweld the pipes that go in and out of the core. Angle was all wrong. Many hours of redoing the angles and welds. Front turbo pipe - hits radiator hose, creates small kink (needs about 1" better clearance). Again, just poor design on bend. Fix - cut and extend radiator hose so it isn't jammed against fnt turbo pipe (or rebend the pipe). Welds were poor and also leaked. Rear turbo pipe adapter weld doesn't allow a coupler seal, Must be ground down. Rear turbo pipe also sticks up too far making it hit the hood (can close the hood but it will hit your heatshield). No vacuum nipple at TB elbow. You must put in your own. Pipes hit bumper without modifications to pipes or shaving bumper. Pipes arrived full of polishing compound and aluminum shavings. Several large AL shards also stuck into pipe (not good for your engine eh?). Several areas had burrs hanging on and needed to be de-burred, cleaned up. Kit arrived short of 1/2 the hose clamps needed and missing 2 couplers. Took a week to get vendor to send the couplers. Kit rating 1-10 with 10 being the best : 3 Vendor rating: 3 Buy again? : No, never __________________ 1995 VR4 - Danube Pearl Blue. 15g Turbos,550cc Inj,DNP Turbopipes,DSM Intercoolers,AEM EMS,AEM dual WBO2,3.5Bar MAP,Dejon Intake,dual K&N air filters,HKS Stainless Exhaust,Stillen DP,HKS SSQV BOV,Koyo radiator,Flexalite radiator fans,HKS CTE Grounding,Accel HiPerf Plug Wires,Optima Battery,Denso Fuel Pump,AEM FPR,Greddy Catch Can,HKS Twin Power Ign Amp,Spec II+ Clutch,Spec AL Flywheel,Tein FLEX Suspension,Tein EDFC Controller,3sx Camber Control Arms,Power Slot Rotors,HPS Brake Pads,SS Brake Lines,Trust strut bars,PIAA 1000XT Drvg Lights,HKS IC sprayer,Setrab Oil Cooler-FM. http://cjbyron.com/3000gtphoto1eng.htm INTERIOR/ELECTRONICS: 3 gauge A-Pillar pod,Custom center console,polished VR4 Door Sills,SS Short Shifter,HKS shift knob,MOMO Racing Pedals,MOMO E-Brake,DEFI HUD,Custom EBC pod,HKS Turbo Timer,Active Radar Jammer,Blitz DSBC i-Color,AEM Serial Guages,HKS Fan Controllerw/ IC controller,HKS Inj Pulse Monitor, Custom Omori Gauges-Water Temp,Oil Press,Boost,Volts,Oil Temp,EGT,Aquamist DDS3 alc/wtr inj controller,Intercooler temp display, Wireless tire pressure and temp in-cab system. STEREO:Kenwood DDX-6039 TouchScreen MONITOR,Kenwood "KEG"MP3 Hard Drive-40GB,Kenwood KNA-G510 GPS & Navigation System,MTX 8000 10" subwoofers 2) + custom enclosure,MTX 6532 Speakers,MTX 900W 4 channel Amplifier,MTX Subwoofer Amplifier 450W,MTX CROSSOVER RT-X02A,X-Static BatCap 400 amps,Infinity Kappa Speakers 60.5 door and tweeters,Infinity Kappa Speakers 63.5 three way,DynaMat installed throughout. http://cjbyron.com/3000gtphoto1i.htm

09-21-2006, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
NOMIEZVR-4 Envious for a VR-4 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CHITOWN Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Ips Fmic ouch...thats a harsh review.. __________________ Ya the car this next time is going to have new parts, and not just junk I had laying around. So everybody better watch out, I went 9.73@151 with a pile of junk, imagine what it's going to do now. The new toy.. 2005 ZX-10R

09-21-2006, 10:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
cjbyron Forum user Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Drives: 1995 VR4 -Orig.Owner Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Ips Fmic Intended to just be factual. This was my experience with this kit. Kept as short as possible with just the facts. Harsh only because of the reality of poor quality control and the entire item having to be redone after paying $1700 for something that claimed online to be "perfect fit". Others may experience better fit (ie , 1G, etc). I dunno.

09-21-2006, 10:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Roger Ludwig F15 - The Fastest 1/4mile Join Date: May 2001 Location: Silverdale Washington Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Ips Fmic Ouch.... tell it like it is baby! __________________ Roger L F15DOC 1995 VR4 Spyder - Pearl White / Blue Racing Stripes 1991 VR4 - Red, Project Car 1999 Benz CLK430 (daily driver) 99 Front End with PIAA fogs and HID kit, K&N FIPK, custom true dual 3" stainless steel exhaust with downpipe, ported, high flow cats and A'PEXi N1 Mufflers, DNP Hardpipe Intercooler kit, Polished plenum and valve covers, 3SX Engine Dress Up with Braided radiator and vacuum hoses, Setrab 920 Front Mount Oil Cooler, UR Adjustable Cam gears, 13G turbos, Spec Stage II Clutch and Spec Lightweight Flywheel, Optima Red Top battery, Greddy Type S BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, HKS EVC IV Silver, bobk custom plates, 18" Chromies with Goodyear Eagle F1's, Brembro Big Red brake kit, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, Ground Control Coilovers. Diamond Audio Hex Series s600s speakers, Diamond Audio D7104 100x4 Amp, Panasonic Ghost HeadUnit. JimVR4 custom remote top controller, BigTyla grounding kit, Bobk Front Strut Bar is next up (someday?) Sold: 1994 3000GT SL-Panama Green Sold: 1995 VR4 Sorrento Red Pearl Board User since May 2000

09-21-2006, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Roger Ludwig F15 - The Fastest 1/4mile Join Date: May 2001 Location: Silverdale Washington Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Ips Fmic Dude, there is no way that someone as technically competent as Craig is making this up, how about owning up to it and admitting you have a lousy setup for a second gen. Whatever...

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09-21-2006, 11:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Roger Ludwig F15 - The Fastest 1/4mile Join Date: May 2001 Location: Silverdale Washington Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Ips Fmic OK, well I guess Craig really is an idiot and is making this up to slander you because he doesn't like you, I knew it!!

09-21-2006, 02:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
cjbyron Forum user Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Drives: 1995 VR4 -Orig.Owner Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Ips Fmic As usual the vendor retorts with what he thinks is funny comebacks. You're correct Roger that I have nothing personal (I don't even know the guy) and he's been paid. For other members I reported my experience with this product. As well there were other 3000GT owners and knowledgeable people at my shop that saw the very same thing as reported above. Pretty simple really. The vendor would have one think it was the customer that either made it all up (for what motive? It's paid for.) or is a fool. So, those looking for a review of the product can take it however they want it. The above review is for the IPS FMIC kit as received in August 2006 from IPS Motorsports. This forum exists to report product reviews. Not just favorable reviews. This is my review and is 100% factual.