Supercharging or Single Turbo

[Josh3000]

Okay, so I am planning on doing one or the other - single turbo or supercharger. I am not looking to get flames, I just want ideas from people experienced in either of the two of these things. I want to know how to do the stuff, what supercharges i should look into and where i can find information on them. I've heard the Eaton supercharger was often used for this type of thing, also I want to know if anyone knows a good way to fabricate a single turbo kit - I am not going to pay IPS 7 grand for a damn single turbo kit, I'll make that shit myself before I'd do that.

Thanks

[speeddemon11383]

I am a little bias, but...My girlfriends mustang has a vortech on it and I of course am going single turbo. The turbo will be way way cheaper to rebuild. We just got hers back (1,500 bucks). The supercharger limits boost to the pully or blower size. And the boost is directly related to rpm's. A turbo gives you more options, boost controller, cheaper to rebuild. They both have good and bad sides. The eaton blower does sound really good at WOT.

[Josh3000]

Well Superchargers + Mustangs go along very well. Imports and Turbos go along real well.. I just would like to get a single turbo kit but i can't afford $8K from IPS on that shit. I'd sooner make my own or buy a vr4 lol.

[gipper72488]

Just curious buts what is steering youaway from the TT conversion?

but if you want one of the 2 choices you listed, id go with the turbo. turbos can make more hp on less boost, and put less wear and tear on the motor as the motor dont strain to make the power. however. a supersharger does not have the infamous boost lag. The big plus to the turbo, is that many members have done the single turbo conversion, and youd have more help in that area. single turbo or tt you are gonna end up with mostly the same parts(tt ecu, injectors, afc, etc etc). the TT conversion would probably be more cost efficient

[dbeltran24]

If you are thinking about a super charger, do a search on Ripp Mods or Knight. These are the only two I know that made supercharges for our cars. There is very little success rate with the installs of either. Although the few that have succeeded have mainly been Knight Superchargers. Ripp no longer makes them but Knight Still has them on there website. Here's the site to Knight thomas knight : turbo upgrades + superchargers . I'm thinking about going SC myself. I Like the instant power feel. Although its about $4000.

[maTT]

The superchargers are garbage. SIngle turbo is cool but its a lot of work and a lot of headache. Just do a TT conversion and be done with it.

[speeddemon11383]

Originally Posted by Josh3000

Well Superchargers + Mustangs go along very well. Imports and Turbos go along real well.. I just would like to get a single turbo kit but i can't afford $8K from IPS on that shit. I'd sooner make my own or buy a vr4 lol.

I really see where you are coming from. My car sat and is still sitting for almost 4 years to save up for the rebuild. Then buying a house came first. And now I'm at the point where I'm ready to rock.
Don't get the domestic supercharger, Import turbo thing too mixed up. I would have put a turbo on my girlfriends mustang in a blink of an eye...but she is a girl, and likes how it sounds at idle lol. My buddies 99 mustang GT is Twin Turbo'd and goes 10.30's up here and weighs 3650lbs.
OK this is my suggestion, if you can weld do a search and build your own single kit, if you can't weld do a TT conversion. But what I think is the best idea is buy a VR4 for your toy and DD your SL. Just my $1.50

[Josh3000]

Originally Posted by gipper72488

Just curious buts what is steering youaway from the TT conversion?

Simple answer? Traction.. I know if I do twins, I am not going to be doing 9b's, I'll probably be doing 15G's.. I won't be able to keep the damn thing on the ground in first or second if I do that.. Basically what it comes down to is that I (like many others) need to find an alternative for making traction at high HP for FWD.. I am sure there has got to be a good way to do it, its just a matter of figuring that way out. Its not just going to be a track car, I am sure most of its fast times will be seen from a 30-60mph roll against some "Muscle" car that thinks they're hot.. lol.

So basically I may do twins, but if I do, I want to have a good plan for traction before hand. I race in the SCCA doing autocross - no traction = bad times. At the same time, no power = bad times.. Thats why a single turbo sounded like a brilliant idea, give me that power for coming out of them turns to fly again - but not TOO much power for the exact second of take off.. I don't want to be spinning tires for 5 seconds before being able to keep going.

[gipper72488]

Originally Posted by Josh3000

Simple answer? Traction.. I know if I do twins, I am not going to be doing 9b's, I'll probably be doing 15G's.. I won't be able to keep the damn thing on the ground in first or second if I do that.. Basically what it comes down to is that I (like many others) need to find an alternative for making traction at high HP for FWD.. I am sure there has got to be a good way to do it, its just a matter of figuring that way out. Its not just going to be a track car, I am sure most of its fast times will be seen from a 30-60mph roll against some "Muscle" car that thinks they're hot.. lol.

So basically I may do twins, but if I do, I want to have a good plan for traction before hand. I race in the SCCA doing autocross - no traction = bad times. At the same time, no power = bad times.. Thats why a single turbo sounded like a brilliant idea, give me that power for coming out of them turns to fly again - but not TOO much power for the exact second of take off.. I don't want to be spinning tires for 5 seconds before being able to keep going.

well if you did the 15g build, with a FMIC, you will loose a little spool time, which for what you are wanting, would be ok, just dont stage it high out of the hole and you will be ok. 9bs spool quick, kinda like the 14b on my gsx. not to mention, you could stage the boost, so you only make so much off the line.

the biggest advantage to single turbo is that its one less you haev to buy

[MustGoFaster]

Use an electronic boost controller and drop the boost down in 1st and 2nd. Problem solved. Or they do make MBC's that can switch low/high.

On motors that rev, turbo's are a great option. If you go with a positive displacement SC their big advantage is low RPM power. Small motors don't make low RPM power, even with a SC. Results are disappointing. Centrifugal SC's are just dumb. More lag than a turbo, max boost at max RPM. Dumb.