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Old 06-18-2006, 12:48 PM   #601 (permalink)
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1. stu_04 (conversion) 3KGT SL ATX
2. punkasscrab (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd
3. SLguy (conversion) 3KGT ATX <---going down to 8:1
4. JB (engine swap) 3KGT 5spd
5. Mikes95RT (conversion) Stealth R/T 5 spd
6. mitsugtocars (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd <----- 13T/9b Combo
7. silverbullet (conversion) Stealth ES 5 spd <--9b/13g combo, 13psi on 10:1
8. Gatecrasher (engine swap) Stealth ESX (FWD TT w/6spd) <---the original
9. Gonskanator (gt pro conversion) GT347's with a host of mods, 3kgt 5spd
10. X GTO X (engine swap) 3KGT (VR-2)
10.Thump`Master (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd
11. JAL (conversion) 3KGT SOHC TT
12. ZachRT (single turbo) Stealth RT
13. 3KHI (supercharged) 3KGT
14. Juko (supercharged) 3KGT
15. SLAYER4ALL (supercharged) 3KGT
16. Snake93gt (supercharged) 3KGT SL
17. Spawn (supercharged) 3KGT SOHC ATX
18. OhFoSho (engine swap) SOHC Stealth
19. Telepathy (TT conversion by 3kgtmotorsports) Stealth R/T 5 spd
20. shooter83 (engine swap) Stealth es 5spd
21. upyun (engine swap) 3kgt sl
22. Greedy Bones (engine swap) stealth es 5 spd SuperES!!! aka 500HP ES
23. Evangelist (TT Conversion) Stealth ES/TT 5 spd
24. Blue-GTO (TT Conversion) 3kgt SL
25. 92 Stealth ES (13G TT Conversion) Stealth ES 5 Spd
26. tim3kgt 94/91 hybrid TT conversion 5spd TRE quaiffe
27. bigballsofpaint (TT conversion) 95 3k base....i finally finished
28. 92-3000GT (Single turbo) 3000gt sl 5spd
29. Optamix (engine swap) 3KGT SL 5spd
30. Ikilledit29 (TT conversion) 95 3000gt 5 sp Youngest? (16 + 2 months)
31. Quintop (engine swap) '95 SL 5 sp
32. Jigzibit (conversion) '95 SL ATX
33. 93 Stealth R/T (TT conversion)
34. Bob The Great (TT conversion) 93 R/T AWD 5spd
35. SpeedFreakSteve (TT swap) '98 3000GT base 5spd AWD w/SFR LSD and 18T's
36. HikariGT (TT conversion) 97 SL 5sp, DR500s,VR4 ECU with NA harness.
37. Kadius (Xtremeboost single T3 turbo conversion) 95 3000GT
38. 3000hybrid (TT swap) ATX to 5spd AWD tranny-
39. 95red3000gt (TT conversion) only one in Colorado!
40. Jeremy C (TT conversion) - weekend project
41. Vortac (TT Conversion) SL ATX
42. Maddux317 (TT Conversion) 92 3GKT SL 5 Spd.
43. ES 3000TT (15G TT swap) 93ES w/92TT..ECU/Harness/Engine/AWD
44. Braincrater (JDM TT Swap) 92 ES w/ 93TT ECU/Harness/Engine/AWD
45. Import Power Online-Fastest-Quickest-Dyno Record 132.97MPH/11.44-14bs/519HP EVOIIIs-5spd AWD The new FWD Record
46.93_black_R/T - Finished May 2004
47. drone007 (TT conversion) 9b's, 6psi, 95 cali harness/95 fed ecu
48. rush6432 ( Single turbo conversion, stock 10:1 motor)
49. Jon Mills- (TT conversion) 9b's, 8psi, TT ECU & Harness, SFR LSD, & so on. . . 156K
50. Zumin3K - TT Swap) 9bs, TT ECU + Harness
51. sipe16 - (TT Conversion) tt ecu/harness, 6spd swap
52. moneypitGT- (TT Swap) tt ecu/harness/14psi/3KGT SL
53. aaron97- (conversion) 3000GT SL
54. sportcars_16-(TT Swap) 15gs/550 injectors/rps 6 puck disc
55. |4x4 nv| - (TT Conversion) TT ecu/LSD Insert/450cc/5 Speed Getrag (113 mph on 9b's )
56. BIG_BALLER( TT Conversion) TT ECU/Blow Thu/ Propain/FMIC
57. [h]ardocp_geek (Single Turbo Conversion) SL 5spd / 62-1 turbo
58. kdog109sd (TT Conversion) - one of the first automatics to do it
59. ~~the~links~~ (supercharged) 1997 3KGT SOHC 5spd @ 9psi
60. Deft Spyder (TT Conversion) '95 3000GT Spyder ATX
61. KevD23 (single turbo) '94 stealth ATX
62. NeoValentine (TT Conversion) 96 SL 5spd @ 8psi TT ECU,Quaife
63. LVA3KGT (TT Swap) DR500s/LSD/ DR Stage 3 heads
64. Pantherchams (Supercharged) 93 Stealth ES ATX
65. Drag_Knight (93 J-spec TT engine swap) '93 Base 3000GT
66. Nireez(TT Conversion) 95 Base 5sp (Stock boost for now!)
67. BillyBADASS09(TT Conversion) 96 RT 5sp (First 96 Stealth fwd TT???)
68. Jomojr (TT Conversion 93 Base ATX)
69. Venom13132 (92 RT, swap 96 vr4 engine, 92vr4 ecu 92vr4 hharness)
70. Cobane (J-Spec Swap) 94 r/t 5-spd.
71. LeRoyDL (92 R/T DR650 TT Conv. JDM ECU, N/A harness) + (2 month old SBM will be running again in the next week)
72. AJP52987 (95 3000gt, TT conversion) TT exhaust cat->axel, NA 2.5" wicked exhaust, Turbo XS rfl BOV, SS oil feed lines, TT plenum, EGR deleted, 95 VR4 ECU 94 VR4 harness.
73. Digiimandan3kgt (95 3kgt, TT swap) Atx to Mtx 5 spd-awd converted to fwd Swap, + many mods
74. LongDDong (13G TT conversion) 95 Dodge Stealth RT ATX
75. ccrunner84 (92 Stealth RT) MTX Swap, NA Engine w/ 8:1 Pistons, 9b's
76.Chris95RT (95RT Blue!) Normal Conversion... for now, ESX the second comming mk2.
77. Xtreme2k2 - TT Conversion, Greddy Emanage, PLX r500
78. Stealth13 - Sohc to DOHC TT with dr500s, standalone EMS and ignition
79. OneWingedAngel - 97 3000GT SL T/T conversion
80. 91StealthBaseTT - TT 10:1 compression fully rebuilt engine including valve job (:
81. PearlRyde - '92 TT Swap into a '99Base... Running on SOHC Tranny until i can rebuild the Getrag...
82. 94mitsumichael7 - 94 Stealth RT... FWD 9b's 8 psi, TT ECU, 10:1 motor, new EVERYTHING. lol. But its finally done and running!!!
83. templar - 94 3000GT ATX TT Conversion.
84. Nojinxz - .080 over supercharged running 6lbs boost - running very well
85. GTOGIRL3000 ~ 94 SL-TT and 5 speed NA MTX swap, 10:1 comp.,TT ECU and harness, SFR LSD.
86. Forsakenwolf - '91 ES-TT w/ 5spd NA MTX, 8:1 comp
87. white96tt - (engine swap) 95 Stealth Base ATX; 15gs/550 injectors/forged pistons, etc... (fired up for first time today 05/10/2006)
88. DSMGTO - 94 SL N/A motor, TT ECU, TT Fuel pump, 360 inj.
89. AyeKay 94 SL Twin Turbo with all the TT Parts 10:1 7lbs of Boost
90. blk92sl - now SLTT!!! just started her for the first time last night..6/17/06

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1. xtremewlr (conversion) collecting parts slowly
2. rtrotter (supercharged) 3KGT
3. Whitewavesea (single turbo) 3kgt Installation in progress
4. Aph (conversion) - Dec 17 '03
5. JRock4000 (conversion) 3000GT -should be done this January
6. TheChosenOne (Eaton SC) 3KGT SL saving money like mad
7. Mitch007 (conversion) expected completion by beginning of summer
8. Saigon_Sam1 '93 3kGT base ATX, TT going in Memorial Day weekend.
9. AkiraGT (TT swap already started)
10. StealthTT (just need turbos and ICs with pipes)
11. Chant (TT / SuperCharger Conversion) :0)
12. Scolex (Supercharger Conversion) Buying 3KHI's SuperCharger
13. 3kgtslflip-Twin Turbo Conversion Bought from TokayGecko, starting asap.
14. Renegadex181- Saving money and collecting parts...to start by April 15th
XX. YOGURT! - MYKISS69 BLOWS didnt get my parts in time, sold to SONICBOUNCE17
15. Clipse20 - 94TT Swap w/ JapSpec ECU & Harness
16. spaceace60 - 96'base w/98'tt vr4motor
17. Presto97sl - TT conversion ATX check sig for days until install
18. MilkyClr69 - 96SL w/ 92JDMTT motor/5spd TT tranny waiting on parts
19. Nobodylikeswood - 94 SL u TT conversion
20. WolfSL - TT conversion - collecting parts
21. 92StealthR/T - Have all parts but oil cooler for my tt conversion
22. TruPnoyFlava - 94 base (VR4 swaP)
23. Ellery Clinton - Got all my parts... just need the 94/95 Harness and Ceramic Coat everything
24. Its Fwd - 94 base coming back to life, soon to be TT
25. My92Stealth - 92 Base, Putting in a TT this winter!
26. 2inTrbo - Some TT parts already installed...TRUELY IN PROGRESS!!
27. J-Groove - Waiting on the mail to bring in the last few parts.
28. zack6G72- A few parts on there way and then a clutch replacement.
29. ATXSUX- gathering parts as we speak, lack downpipe, gauges, ECU and Harness and a couple of little things.
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Old 06-19-2006, 02:16 AM   #602 (permalink)
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Hey everybody, just wondering how much is this costing you without labor? I'm thinking of buying a 91' 3kgt sl manual 5 speed, and was wondering how much for parts and which parts and brands recommended for the conversion. Any help and prices would be helpful. Thanks.
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Old 06-30-2006, 01:05 AM   #603 (permalink)
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1. stu_04 (conversion) 3KGT SL ATX
2. punkasscrab (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd
3. SLguy (conversion) 3KGT ATX <---going down to 8:1
4. JB (engine swap) 3KGT 5spd
5. Mikes95RT (conversion) Stealth R/T 5 spd
6. mitsugtocars (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd <----- 13T/9b Combo
7. silverbullet (conversion) Stealth ES 5 spd <--9b/13g combo, 13psi on 10:1
8. Gatecrasher (engine swap) Stealth ESX (FWD TT w/6spd) <---the original
9. Gonskanator (gt pro conversion) GT347's with a host of mods, 3kgt 5spd
10. X GTO X (engine swap) 3KGT (VR-2)
10.Thump`Master (conversion) 3KGT 5 spd
11. JAL (conversion) 3KGT SOHC TT
12. ZachRT (single turbo) Stealth RT
13. 3KHI (supercharged) 3KGT
14. Juko (supercharged) 3KGT
15. SLAYER4ALL (supercharged) 3KGT
16. Snake93gt (supercharged) 3KGT SL
17. Spawn (supercharged) 3KGT SOHC ATX
18. OhFoSho (engine swap) SOHC Stealth
19. Telepathy (TT conversion by 3kgtmotorsports) Stealth R/T 5 spd
20. shooter83 (engine swap) Stealth es 5spd
21. upyun (engine swap) 3kgt sl
22. Greedy Bones (engine swap) stealth es 5 spd SuperES!!! aka 500HP ES
23. Evangelist (TT Conversion) Stealth ES/TT 5 spd
24. Blue-GTO (TT Conversion) 3kgt SL
25. 92 Stealth ES (13G TT Conversion) Stealth ES 5 Spd
26. tim3kgt 94/91 hybrid TT conversion 5spd TRE quaiffe
27. bigballsofpaint (TT conversion) 95 3k base....i finally finished
28. 92-3000GT (Single turbo) 3000gt sl 5spd
29. Optamix (engine swap) 3KGT SL 5spd
30. Ikilledit29 (TT conversion) 95 3000gt 5 sp Youngest? (16 + 2 months)
31. Quintop (engine swap) '95 SL 5 sp
32. Jigzibit (conversion) '95 SL ATX
33. 93 Stealth R/T (TT conversion)
34. Bob The Great (TT conversion) 93 R/T AWD 5spd
35. SpeedFreakSteve (TT swap) '98 3000GT base 5spd AWD w/SFR LSD and 18T's
36. HikariGT (TT conversion) 97 SL 5sp, DR500s,VR4 ECU with NA harness.
37. Kadius (Xtremeboost single T3 turbo conversion) 95 3000GT
38. 3000hybrid (TT swap) 97 base GT- ATX to 5spd AWD tranny w/SFR LSD 19T's
39. 95red3000gt (TT conversion) only one in Colorado!
40. Jeremy C (TT conversion) - weekend project
41. Vortac (TT Conversion) SL ATX
42. Maddux317 (TT Conversion) 92 3GKT SL 5 Spd.
43. ES 3000TT (15G TT swap) 93ES w/92TT..ECU/Harness/Engine/AWD
44. Braincrater (JDM TT Swap) 92 ES w/ 93TT ECU/Harness/Engine/AWD
45. Import Power Online-Fastest-Quickest-Dyno Record 132.97MPH/11.44-14bs/519HP EVOIIIs-5spd AWD The new FWD Record
46.93_black_R/T - Finished May 2004
47. drone007 (TT conversion) 9b's, 6psi, 95 cali harness/95 fed ecu
48. rush6432 ( Single turbo conversion, stock 10:1 motor)
49. Jon Mills- (TT conversion) 9b's, 8psi, TT ECU & Harness, SFR LSD, & so on. . . 156K
50. Zumin3K - TT Swap) 9bs, TT ECU + Harness
51. sipe16 - (TT Conversion) tt ecu/harness, 6spd swap
52. moneypitGT- (TT Swap) tt ecu/harness/14psi/3KGT SL
53. aaron97- (conversion) 3000GT SL
54. sportcars_16-(TT Swap) 15gs/550 injectors/rps 6 puck disc
55. |4x4 nv| - (TT Conversion) TT ecu/LSD Insert/450cc/5 Speed Getrag (113 mph on 9b's )
56. BIG_BALLER( TT Conversion) TT ECU/Blow Thu/ Propain/FMIC
57. [h]ardocp_geek (Single Turbo Conversion) SL 5spd / 62-1 turbo
58. kdog109sd (TT Conversion) - one of the first automatics to do it
59. ~~the~links~~ (supercharged) 1997 3KGT SOHC 5spd @ 9psi
60. Deft Spyder (TT Conversion) '95 3000GT Spyder ATX
61. KevD23 (single turbo) '94 stealth ATX
62. NeoValentine (TT Conversion) 96 SL 5spd @ 8psi TT ECU,Quaife
63. LVA3KGT (TT Swap) DR500s/LSD/ DR Stage 3 heads
64. Pantherchams (Supercharged) 93 Stealth ES ATX
65. Drag_Knight (93 J-spec TT engine swap) '93 Base 3000GT
66. Nireez(TT Conversion) 95 Base 5sp (Stock boost for now!)
67. BillyBADASS09(TT Conversion) 96 RT 5sp (First 96 Stealth fwd TT???)
68. Jomojr (TT Conversion 93 Base ATX)
69. Venom13132 (92 RT, swap 96 vr4 engine, 92vr4 ecu 92vr4 hharness)
70. Cobane (J-Spec Swap) 94 r/t 5-spd.
71. LeRoyDL (92 R/T DR650 TT Conv. JDM ECU, N/A harness) + (2 month old SBM will be running again in the next week)
72. AJP52987 (95 3000gt, TT conversion) TT exhaust cat->axel, NA 2.5" wicked exhaust, Turbo XS rfl BOV, SS oil feed lines, TT plenum, EGR deleted, 95 VR4 ECU 94 VR4 harness.
73. Digiimandan3kgt (95 3kgt, TT swap) Atx to Mtx 5 spd-awd converted to fwd Swap, + many mods
74. LongDDong (13G TT conversion) 95 Dodge Stealth RT ATX
75. ccrunner84 (92 Stealth RT) MTX Swap, NA Engine w/ 8:1 Pistons, 9b's
76.Chris95RT (95RT Blue!) Normal Conversion... for now, ESX the second comming mk2.
77. Xtreme2k2 - TT Conversion, Greddy Emanage, PLX r500
78. Stealth13 - Sohc to DOHC TT with dr500s, standalone EMS and ignition
79. OneWingedAngel - 97 3000GT SL T/T conversion
80. 91StealthBaseTT - TT 10:1 compression fully rebuilt engine including valve job (:
81. PearlRyde - '92 TT Swap into a '99Base... Running on SOHC Tranny until i can rebuild the Getrag...
82. 94mitsumichael7 - 94 Stealth RT... FWD 9b's 8 psi, TT ECU, 10:1 motor, new EVERYTHING. lol. But its finally done and running!!!
83. templar - 94 3000GT ATX TT Conversion.
84. Nojinxz - .080 over supercharged running 6lbs boost - running very well
85. GTOGIRL3000 ~ 94 SL-TT and 5 speed NA MTX swap, 10:1 comp.,TT ECU and harness, SFR LSD.
86. Forsakenwolf - '91 ES-TT w/ 5spd NA MTX, 8:1 comp
87. white96tt - (engine swap) 95 Stealth Base ATX; 15gs/550 injectors/forged pistons, etc... (fired up for first time today 05/10/2006)
88. DSMGTO - 94 SL N/A motor, TT ECU, TT Fuel pump, 360 inj.
89. AyeKay 94 SL Twin Turbo with all the TT Parts 10:1 7lbs of Boost
90. blk92sl - now SLTT!!! just started her for the first time last night..6/17/06

In Progress (remove your name when finished and add to completed list)

1. xtremewlr (conversion) collecting parts slowly
2. rtrotter (supercharged) 3KGT
3. Whitewavesea (single turbo) 3kgt Installation in progress
4. Aph (conversion) - Dec 17 '03
5. JRock4000 (conversion) 3000GT -should be done this January
6. TheChosenOne (Eaton SC) 3KGT SL saving money like mad
7. Mitch007 (conversion) expected completion by beginning of summer
8. Saigon_Sam1 '93 3kGT base ATX, TT going in Memorial Day weekend.
9. AkiraGT (TT swap already started)
10. StealthTT (just need turbos and ICs with pipes)
11. Chant (TT / SuperCharger Conversion) :0)
12. Scolex (Supercharger Conversion) Buying 3KHI's SuperCharger
13. 3kgtslflip-Twin Turbo Conversion Bought from TokayGecko, starting asap.
14. Renegadex181- Saving money and collecting parts...to start by April 15th
XX. YOGURT! - MYKISS69 BLOWS didnt get my parts in time, sold to SONICBOUNCE17
15. Clipse20 - 94TT Swap w/ JapSpec ECU & Harness
16. spaceace60 - 96'base w/98'tt vr4motor
17. Presto97sl - TT conversion ATX check sig for days until install
18. MilkyClr69 - 96SL w/ 92JDMTT motor/5spd TT tranny waiting on parts
19. Nobodylikeswood - 94 SL u TT conversion
20. WolfSL - TT conversion - collecting parts
21. 92StealthR/T - Have all parts but oil cooler for my tt conversion
22. TruPnoyFlava - 94 base (VR4 swaP)
23. Ellery Clinton - Got all my parts... just need the 94/95 Harness and Ceramic Coat everything
24. Its Fwd - 94 base coming back to life, soon to be TT
25. My92Stealth - 92 Base, Putting in a TT this winter!
26. 2inTrbo - Some TT parts already installed...TRUELY IN PROGRESS!!
27. J-Groove - Waiting on the mail to bring in the last few parts.
28. zack6G72- A few parts on there way and then a clutch replacement.
29. ATXSUX- gathering parts as we speak, lack downpipe, gauges, ECU and Harness and a couple of little things.
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it was sad to see only 4 or 5 FWD power adders run at the NG
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Three words...location, location, location.
hey its only about a 13hr drive from Auburn you gotta caravan with the GA3S crew next year.

I live 3.5hrs away and my car has never made it. Its always got some issue. Like it needs an oil pump right now.

But after next year the NG will most likely move a little further south. Im pushing for Tennesee maybe memphis. Its a little more central.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:40 PM   #607 (permalink)
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I'd actually like them to bring it back to Indy and get a chance to drive around their track! I missed NG04
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Like he said LOCATION! I know DR is in New Mexico, But I don't have that kind of money.
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yeah its expensive. especially with gas prices. I live in indy and there are many better places to have gatherings. Indy does have the prestige of the home of the Drag Nationals Indianapolis race way park and Indianapolis motor speedway track but its hard to get a chance to drive on the 500 track. they let people take a lap on the formula one track last week but only at 30mph.
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Originally Posted by Venom13132
hey its only about a 13hr drive from Auburn you gotta caravan with the GA3S crew next year.

I live 3.5hrs away and my car has never made it. Its always got some issue. Like it needs an oil pump right now.

But after next year the NG will most likely move a little further south. Im pushing for Tennesee maybe memphis. Its a little more central.
ONLY 13 hours...

Besides, I don't think the NG is as cool as everyone makes it out to be, besides meeting people. Honestly I have a good time within my regional meets, but I can't comment further since I've never been to an NG and never will until the location becomes more centralized.

Michigan?!?! Give me a friggin break...
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