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ver fer · 07-28-2008, 06:53 PM

^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah, what he said. You can't run 450's with out some type of controller. Well if you run e-85 you might, but I wouldn't try it. You will also need a datalogger.

a2j · 07-28-2008, 08:02 PM

please, note. IMHO 450cc is NOT enough, get 550 or better yet evo 560cc.
you will max those out even on 9bs.

P.S.
yesterday I was able to boost 20 psi without knock. yeah - ha.

Import Power · 07-29-2008, 11:58 AM

Found the closest E85 station (National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition) to me is only 23 miles away. Today's price is $3.69/gal and they allow Container/drum filling. I have an empty 55 gallon C16 drum.
Looks like a have a Project this weekend

1fastvr4 · 07-29-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Import Power

Found the closest E85 station (National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition) to me is only 23 miles away. Today's price is $3.69/gal and they allow Container/drum filling. I have an empty 55 gallon C16 drum.
Looks like a have a Project this weekend

Cool Chris! Too bad you have to drive so far to get it but at least you can do the drum thing.

Good luck on the tuning. You will really like E85. It is very forgiving.

Dean

Import Power · 07-29-2008, 01:09 PM

23 miles isn't too bad. I will take the diesel truck and fill a 55 gal drum for $202

a2j · 07-29-2008, 03:43 PM

$3.69 for gal of e85 is TOO MUCH. I pay $2.89 and I think that it could be cheaper. and that gas station will not give you more than $75 worth of gas in one transaction. I had two 6 gal containers with me + fuel tank so that was well over $75.

Import Power · 07-29-2008, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a2j

$3.69 for gal of e85 is TOO MUCH. I pay $2.89 and I think that it could be cheaper. and that gas station will not give you more than $75 worth of gas in one transaction. I had two 6 gal containers with me + fuel tank so that was well over $75.

I will see if anyone else is around cheaper. The place close to me said no problem filling a 55 gallon drum.

Import Power · 07-29-2008, 07:04 PM

So Do I just off the bat add 30% across the board on my fuel map before even starting it and tuning? Sounds right but want to make sure.

ver fer · 07-29-2008, 08:23 PM

Yeah that is a good place to start. You'll want to tune it a little richer than with gas. I shoot for around 11.6-11.2.

I don't know I you injectors will be large enough to though. I have 680's and 13t's with the fuel pressure at 50 psi my IDCs were over 100. I just turned the fuel pressure up to 55 psi and the IDCs are now around 90.

vr4_rider · 07-29-2008, 09:12 PM

I thought with e-85 there is an equation you have to use to make sure you are in the right range for af ratio?

T

07-28-2008, 06:53 PM	#291 (permalink)
ver fer Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oshkosh,WI Drives: a corn fed VR4 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? ^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, what he said. You can't run 450's with out some type of controller. Well if you run e-85 you might, but I wouldn't try it. You will also need a datalogger. __________________ '94 vr4 - gutted precats-no main cat/ cheap-ass catback w/ebay fartcans/ custom dp/ hotwired walbro pump/ 13T's/ E-manage/ PTE 680cc injectors/ Blitz sbc i-d/ SBC DXD clutch/ Unorthodox flywheel/PST CFDS/18" Fittipaldi Forces

07-29-2008, 11:58 AM	#293 (permalink)
Import Power Corn Its whats for boost Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind the Wheel Drives: Vicki Insane Trader Rating: (210)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? Found the closest E85 station (National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition) to me is only 23 miles away. Today's price is $3.69/gal and they allow Container/drum filling. I have an empty 55 gallon C16 drum. Looks like a have a Project this weekend __________________ AEM Factory Trained Tuner 91VR4-3.0L-Stock heads and Cams-762AWHP 747AWTQ 30psi E100 Daily Driver 10.63@121mph SLTT-10.9 @ 140MPH Stock NA motor and NA heads/Cams T4 AWD 9.21 @ 154.98 T2 FWD 10.19 @ 140.31 T4-159.23 MPH Ran on 6G72 3.1L! T4-995AWHP Uncorrected 6G72 3.0L C16 T2-820FWHP 3.1L 27psi C16 91VR4 Red-17Gs w/supporting mods-sold 93SLTT/T2 91VR4 Pearl White-sold 91VR4 Black-sold 92VR4 Sandstone-sold 94VR4 Green-sold 93VR4 Pearl White-sold NG09 Title Sponsor 3SX Performance 3SX Performance Service Email

07-29-2008, 01:09 PM	#295 (permalink)
Import Power Corn Its whats for boost Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind the Wheel Drives: Vicki Insane Trader Rating: (210)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? 23 miles isn't too bad. I will take the diesel truck and fill a 55 gal drum for $202

07-29-2008, 03:43 PM	#296 (permalink)
a2j Driving While Ukrainian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WI Drives: Red Car Trader Rating: (4)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? $3.69 for gal of e85 is TOO MUCH. I pay $2.89 and I think that it could be cheaper. and that gas station will not give you more than $75 worth of gas in one transaction. I had two 6 gal containers with me + fuel tank so that was well over $75.

07-29-2008, 07:04 PM	#298 (permalink)
Import Power Corn Its whats for boost Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind the Wheel Drives: Vicki Insane Trader Rating: (210)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? So Do I just off the bat add 30% across the board on my fuel map before even starting it and tuning? Sounds right but want to make sure.

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07-29-2008, 08:23 PM	#299 (permalink)
ver fer Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Oshkosh,WI Drives: a corn fed VR4 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? Yeah that is a good place to start. You'll want to tune it a little richer than with gas. I shoot for around 11.6-11.2. I don't know I you injectors will be large enough to though. I have 680's and 13t's with the fuel pressure at 50 psi my IDCs were over 100. I just turned the fuel pressure up to 55 psi and the IDCs are now around 90.

07-29-2008, 09:12 PM	#300 (permalink)
vr4_rider USMC Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa Drives: 3/S Trader Rating: (12)	Re: E85 Powered VR4? I thought with e-85 there is an equation you have to use to make sure you are in the right range for af ratio? T