E85 Powered VR4?

[Cool Name Here]

Originally Posted by Import Power

went to that site. I don't see how they are only charging $7 to ship a HAZMAT 55 gallon drum of Ethanol?!?!
Something don't seem right.

NM, I didn't go to the bottom of the page, it states shipping is extra and they call you with the shipping charge.

I guess we can call it G.U.M. for Greddy Ultimate Management, lol.

Yeah I thought the same about the $7 for shipping a hazmat container full of fuel. I did not see the small print.

Does anyone know if you can load the ultimate with multiple maps and have them available on the fly? One for pump and one for the e85?

[markoverclock]

Originally Posted by Cool Name Here

I guess we can call it G.U.M. for Greddy Ultimate Management, lol.

Yeah I thought the same about the $7 for shipping a hazmat container full of fuel. I did not see the small print.

Does anyone know if you can load the ultimate with multiple maps and have them available on the fly? One for pump and one for the e85?

if you use the external switch you can toggle between 2 maps.

[Import Power]

Originally Posted by markoverclock

if you use the external switch you can toggle between 2 maps.

Basicaly that is what you can do with the AEM. You can use the Nitrous Timing and Fuel table. Then use the Nitrous Switch on input to turn those tables on or off. Cool shit.

[1fastvr4]

Originally Posted by Import Power

I would be a little skeptical of a dyno that showed 700AWHP out of 16Gs. Without a little spray...

Yeah, there is no way that he will make 700 AWHP with 680 injectors on
E85. I am using 780 injectors and alchy (similar setup) and I am pretty maxed out at about 20psi. I turned my base fuel pressure up to 53.5 so that I can squeeze another 3 psi to get me up to 23psi or so. My next step will probably be 1000cc injectors. The bigger DSMs that are on E85 are running 1200 to 1600cc injectors.

Some shops have done tests switching from pump to E85 and when only changing the fuel to match the AFR they are seeing torque gains of about
30. That is without uping the timing that you can do with E85.

Dean

[cobill91stealth]

FastVR4:

I'm just going off of what the tuner said. I'm not an expert on the matter as this is all new to me. Although I was told there was no way that I'd be able to run 680cc injectors and tune with a SAFC2 by several places and the tuner was able to do it with great results even though I also was doubtful. I'll be first person to say whether or not it was or wasn't possible. I was told by Matt at Dynamic that at 500awhp that the stock MAF couldn't keep up and at 496awhp on the dyno that held exactly true which was the most acurate piece of information I have had yet. I have been told that the stock ECU is crap and I have to get rid of it, but I see some people making great power and saving them a few bucks from going with a stand alone system. If it needs bigger injectors I wouldn't think twice about ordering them but I'll see where the 680's get me before I start guessing at where I need to be with injectors. I use to be the one bagging on imports, but honestly they impress the hell out of me now and even though I miss ripping the tires loose on a rwd muscle car i wouldn't trade this import for one.

[Rogue_Ant]

cobill,
I suggest you go to Bandimere on the 6th (IIRC). There should be a few 3si guys there and it would be a good chance to see what everyone else is running and how well it works. There should be a few different setups.


-Rogue

[ver fer]

Originally Posted by 1fastvr4

Yeah, there is no way that he will make 700 AWHP with 680 injectors on
E85. I am using 780 injectors and alchy (similar setup) and I am pretty maxed out at about 20psi. I turned my base fuel pressure up to 53.5 so that I can squeeze another 3 psi to get me up to 23psi or so. My next step will probably be 1000cc injectors. The bigger DSMs that are on E85 are running 1200 to 1600cc injectors.

Some shops have done tests switching from pump to E85 and when only changing the fuel to match the AFR they are seeing torque gains of about
30. That is without uping the timing that you can do with E85.

Dean

Yeah I'm going to have to call B.S. on this as well.

I'm running 13t's and my 680's are maxed out with the boost at 18psi and base FP set a 50 psi.

[dlabonte]

Originally Posted by 1fastvr4

Yeah, there is no way that he will make 700 AWHP with 680 injectors on
E85. I am using 780 injectors and alchy (similar setup) and I am pretty maxed out at about 20psi. I turned my base fuel pressure up to 53.5 so that I can squeeze another 3 psi to get me up to 23psi or so. My next step will probably be 1000cc injectors. The bigger DSMs that are on E85 are running 1200 to 1600cc injectors.

Some shops have done tests switching from pump to E85 and when only changing the fuel to match the AFR they are seeing torque gains of about
30. That is without uping the timing that you can do with E85.

Dean

Another thumbs up for Alchy Injection

"Keep the corn on the table, not in the tank"

[mjannusch]

Originally Posted by dlabonte

Another thumbs up for Alchy Injection

"Keep the corn on the table, not in the tank"

...says the guy selling alchy injection kits.

What does this have to do with E-85 again?

[Import Power]

Some shops have done tests switching from pump to E85 and when only changing the fuel to match the AFR they are seeing torque gains of about
30. That is without uping the timing that you can do with E85.

Originally Posted by dlabonte

Another thumbs up for Alchy Injection

"Keep the corn on the table, not in the tank"

That just don't make any sense...other than trying to save sales.

And I can see why E85 would scare someone in the Alky injection kit selling business, but trying to debunk E85 is kinda silly. It's pretty proven to actually give MORE power even before tuning in more timing. It's cheap. And some are getting MORE power out of it than they do on straight race gas. You can't claim that with Alky inj.

Sure alky can be great on top of pump gas. But it's no match for E85..I mean cmon.....

(I have an aquamist kit on my car myself so I am not an alky hater)