Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

vr4_rider · 04-26-2008, 11:01 AM

Hey, guys.

The bilsteins are a little more of a heavier duty strut/shock than the OEMs...

So, what springs are good with the bilsteins? In general, would stiffer springs work better if I have STIFFER strut/shocks? Would bilsteins and GC springs be a good combo? If not, what's better? I need to stick with bilstein struts and shocks. The GC springs I believe are 450/600.

Thanks!

drobvr4 · 04-26-2008, 09:02 PM

i just put bilsteins on with eibach springs and it rides awsome. Not to stiff at all but cornering has improved greatly, but then again im still in the process of breakin them in

etecnifibre · 04-27-2008, 05:21 PM

I have H&R springs. Rides smooth on the highway, and handles very well.

Steelythefez · 04-28-2008, 11:53 AM

I would stick to a mild drop on the bilsteins. I ran mine with intrax for about 3k miles and they are not going back on the car. Cutting the bump stops on the front cartridges proved to be an absolute bitch.

etecnifibre · 04-28-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelythefez

I would stick to a mild drop on the bilsteins. I ran mine with intrax for about 3k miles and they are not going back on the car. Cutting the bump stops on the front cartridges proved to be an absolute bitch.

I did my suspension about 15 months ago, and I was unable to get my struts apart to cut the stops. Maybe they have since either tightened the housing or added a thread locker? I was just going to strip it out. That's why I went with the H/R springs (1" drop).

vr4_rider · 04-28-2008, 03:52 PM

Yeah, I think I am going to sell my GC and get some TEIN...time to do some research.

PhillyGuy · 06-20-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drobvr4

i just put bilsteins on with eibach springs and it rides awsome. Not to stiff at all but cornering has improved greatly, but then again im still in the process of breakin them in

Hi, I am replacing my worn-out factory struts for Bilsteins (on 3000GT NA) and considering changing the springs to Eibachs. Assuming the ride isn't super stiff, my only concern is alignment. (read something about the rears needing additional adjustments)

Did you have the car aligned afterwards?
Any additional parts needed? (ie rear control arms)
Thanx

lawdogg · 06-20-2008, 08:00 AM

I love the Tein S-Tech springs for height and comfort ... but they aren't as stiff as my Intrax. If you will have to cut the bump stops for intrax ... it's a question of how much the increased spring rates are worth to you.

tachyon_ftl · 06-20-2008, 11:59 AM

I also tried to get the Bilstein front cartridges apart... a month ago... and I couldn't do it. I put two jam nuts on the threaded rod that protrudes out the bottom of the strut, and all that happened was I messed up the threads on the rod when the jam nut I was using to turn the rod started spinning in place.

I don't think that opening it up and cutting the internal bump stops is feasible at present- at least, not without a THIRD strut to cut apart first and find out what they're doing now to keep them together.

04-26-2008, 11:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
vr4_rider USMC Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa Drives: '93 Vr4; '06 675cc Trader Rating: (10)	Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? Hey, guys. The bilsteins are a little more of a heavier duty strut/shock than the OEMs... So, what springs are good with the bilsteins? In general, would stiffer springs work better if I have STIFFER strut/shocks? Would bilsteins and GC springs be a good combo? If not, what's better? I need to stick with bilstein struts and shocks. The GC springs I believe are 450/600. Thanks! __________________ Trung [1993 Pearl Black VR-4] Appearance//1999 Front end//ground controls w/ adj. rear control arms//18x9 5Zigen 5ZR wrapped in 245 front, 275/35/ZR18 Falkens//DR Racing Black lugnuts Mods//GReddy EBC Spec-II//Greedy Type-S BOV//Unorthodox UD pulley//ATR Downpipe//IPS Single Shot Magnaflow//255 Walbro pump//GReddy Profec Spec II EBC//JET tuned ECU//AutoMeter Boost gauge//HKS Turbo Timer//Gutted Hi-Flow DynoMaxx CC//Vac Reduction//EGR Block off//PRO-M 80mm MAS and MAF-T Tuner//EVO 8 560cc injectors //Shriver's datalogger Turbos: 13Tx2 Current Problem(s): Cherries in the rear view mirror In the Process: Nothing Want to Trade/Buy: Cams and springs, non-OEM clutch and flywheel...

04-26-2008, 09:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
drobvr4 New User - Please be kind Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Albany NY Drives: 1997 3000gt vr4 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? i just put bilsteins on with eibach springs and it rides awsome. Not to stiff at all but cornering has improved greatly, but then again im still in the process of breakin them in

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etecnifibre In Training Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madison, IN Drives: 1995 Stealth R/T TT Trader Rating: (57)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? I have H&R springs. Rides smooth on the highway, and handles very well. __________________ _{K/N FIPK ll 3SX Downpipe ll Joe P. MBC ll Vac. Redux ll Precat Elims ll NGK 8MM Plug Wires ll Evo 8 BOV ll Test Pipe ll 99 Lifters ll FP Hotwire ll Bilstein Struts ll H&R Springs ll Blitz Turbo Timer w/boost gauge ll SS brake lines ll '99 Headlights and Turns ll Hybrid Datalogger ll 3SX 2" Core Radiator ll ACPT 1pc CFDS ll F/R Solid Mounts ll Side Poly Mounts}Stealth owners....Get vinyl lettering for your calipers!

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Steelythefez Masshole Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Framingham, MA Trader Rating: (19)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? I would stick to a mild drop on the bilsteins. I ran mine with intrax for about 3k miles and they are not going back on the car. Cutting the bump stops on the front cartridges proved to be an absolute bitch. __________________ 94 vr4

04-28-2008, 03:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
vr4_rider USMC Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa Drives: '93 Vr4; '06 675cc Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? Yeah, I think I am going to sell my GC and get some TEIN...time to do some research.

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06-20-2008, 08:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
lawdogg Here for the tuna. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Williamsport, PA Drives: The Speed Limit Trader Rating: (58)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? I love the Tein S-Tech springs for height and comfort ... but they aren't as stiff as my Intrax. If you will have to cut the bump stops for intrax ... it's a question of how much the increased spring rates are worth to you. __________________ 2002 WJ -- 1994 VR-4 -- 1993 ZJ --Canon Rebel XTi Green Cars FTW

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tachyon_ftl '96 VR4 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hollis, NH Drives: It's spos'd to move? Trader Rating: (11)	Re: Bilstein struts and shocks but what springs? I also tried to get the Bilstein front cartridges apart... a month ago... and I couldn't do it. I put two jam nuts on the threaded rod that protrudes out the bottom of the strut, and all that happened was I messed up the threads on the rod when the jam nut I was using to turn the rod started spinning in place. I don't think that opening it up and cutting the internal bump stops is feasible at present- at least, not without a THIRD strut to cut apart first and find out what they're doing now to keep them together. __________________ GHOST - "Because it's white and it tends to vanish" K&N FIPK, DSM Sidemounts, Hotwired Walbro, EK2 Fuel Loop & AEM AFPR, "The Only Known Dr. Stupid 3in SS DP in Captivity!", Random Tech 3in Cat, Borla Catback, Greddy TT and EBC, Greddy Boost, Oil Prs and Fuel Prs in Cianci 3 Up Pillar Pod, Tein S-Techs, Bilstein Struts, Maximal Control Arms, Carbotech Rotors/Pads and StopTech SS Brake Lines. In work- 450CC DSM Injectors and SAFC-2