Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

Pile o' VR4 · 08-12-2007, 10:47 PM

Disregard everything I have written about the FA1673 ball joint ever fitting the 3/S control arm.
New Information
I assumed that I knew that because the Eclipse/Talon ball joint fit the 3/s controlarm, which you have already discovered does not. This led me down the path of discovery. Frankly, I should remove that entire posting and redo all of my typings with the correct information I discovered.

What the people that are selling these "magical" ball joints both here and on Ebay that fit the 3/S platform are for a 1995-98 Hyundai Sonata. V-6 or 4 banger doesn't matter.

What you are looking for is Moog K9855 or its equivelent.
TRW 104-244 is one such equivelent.
So is the NAPA ATM 1013408.

This also fits the 94-current Hyundai Tiburons as well. However, They do not have the preloaded spring underneath the ball socket along with the accompanying "bulb" at the end of the joint itself. That joint is p/n Moog k9455. Either one fits. Use the k9855 unit or its equivelent instead of the k9455 in my opinion.

Yes, I have installed this very joint in my '92 VR4 and it is the actual joint. You can take that information to the bank.

So, to all that have ever profitted from selling ball joints for roughly 250% markup, piss on you all.

Seriously? $99 for a set of ball joints?

Granted, I'm sure these companies/individuals have to make a living too but to allow some of you poor bastards to think that a ball joint isn't available from Autozone, or Napa, or CSK is just flat wrong. Maybe those a little further along in the tech dept. have already researched this and discovered that ball joints are available without the price tag attached.

3SX charging $75 per joint or the seller on Ebay charging $45 +shipping or anyone else for that matter selling "specific to the 3/S community" would like you to believe that there is something special about their product.

For anyone that wishes to know, ball joints are available for this platform from any auto parts store. I purchased the Autozone/Duralast FA1673 greaseable ball joint for $29.99. The application of this joint is for the DSM platform as well as any other FWD based semi-modern Mitsubishi that uses a tapered shank rather than a pinch bolt style. Just be sure to get the unit that has the bulb at the end rather than the non-serviceable unit.

As someone on this forum once said, there are only ~5 different joints that Mitsubishi ever used.

Yes, they do fit the rear control arms. There is no magic behind these joints

disturbedkorn · 08-13-2007, 11:19 AM

Awesome. Thank you for bringing this to light!!

blusilvr · 08-13-2007, 11:51 AM

there is a guy on 3si who sells em for 30-35 on occasional "sales". Normally he has em for 50 each, or 75 for 2 i think

cbehnken · 08-13-2007, 12:04 PM

wow, good to know, thanks

Pile o' VR4 · 08-13-2007, 12:16 PM

You're missing the point. You CAN run on down to your local parts store to get a joint. No need to get one from a "vendor."

Also, there are varying qualities of joints out there. The one I purchased has a LIFETIME WARRANTY. I'm going to assume that the person you are referring to would normally retail for ~$21.49 and come with a 2-3 year warranty.

But alas, I cannot stop you from wasting money. I can get the very same part for $25-30 cheaper, locally and immediately and I'm telling you can too.

itzatol · 08-13-2007, 12:27 PM

thanks!

CurtVR-4 · 08-18-2007, 10:51 PM

Bump for an awesome thread! Installing mine tomorrow!

leet · 08-20-2007, 01:07 AM

I got mine from here http://www.3kgtparts.com/balljoints.htm

this is the same guy that sells them on 3si for really good prices once in a while

CurtVR-4 · 08-21-2007, 03:55 PM

These do not work for a 96 vr-4. I ordered them at kragen as per the part number given on this thread and they are not even close. I have to take them back now and wait for parts with my car sitting in the garage.

larssunde · 09-24-2007, 08:51 PM

Hi Guys,
has anyone put these balljoints (FA1673) on a '95 base model Stealth? I have the $86 a piece on order and if I can use these, I'll be more than happy to cancel that order.

Thanks ...

08-12-2007, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pile o' VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yakima, WA Drives: '92 VR4 Trader Rating: (0)	Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag Disregard everything I have written about the FA1673 ball joint ever fitting the 3/S control arm. New Information I assumed that I knew that because the Eclipse/Talon ball joint fit the 3/s controlarm, which you have already discovered does not. This led me down the path of discovery. Frankly, I should remove that entire posting and redo all of my typings with the correct information I discovered. What the people that are selling these "magical" ball joints both here and on Ebay that fit the 3/S platform are for a 1995-98 Hyundai Sonata. V-6 or 4 banger doesn't matter. What you are looking for is Moog K9855 or its equivelent. TRW 104-244 is one such equivelent. So is the NAPA ATM 1013408. This also fits the 94-current Hyundai Tiburons as well. However, They do not have the preloaded spring underneath the ball socket along with the accompanying "bulb" at the end of the joint itself. That joint is p/n Moog k9455. Either one fits. Use the k9855 unit or its equivelent instead of the k9455 in my opinion. Yes, I have installed this very joint in my '92 VR4 and it is the actual joint. You can take that information to the bank. So, to all that have ever profitted from selling ball joints for roughly 250% markup, piss on you all. Seriously? $99 for a set of ball joints? Granted, I'm sure these companies/individuals have to make a living too but to allow some of you poor bastards to think that a ball joint isn't available from Autozone, or Napa, or CSK is just flat wrong. Maybe those a little further along in the tech dept. have already researched this and discovered that ball joints are available without the price tag attached. 3SX charging $75 per joint or the seller on Ebay charging $45 +shipping or anyone else for that matter selling "specific to the 3/S community" would like you to believe that there is something special about their product. For anyone that wishes to know, ball joints are available for this platform from any auto parts store. I purchased the Autozone/Duralast FA1673 greaseable ball joint for $29.99. The application of this joint is for the DSM platform as well as any other FWD based semi-modern Mitsubishi that uses a tapered shank rather than a pinch bolt style. Just be sure to get the unit that has the bulb at the end rather than the non-serviceable unit. As someone on this forum once said, there are only ~5 different joints that Mitsubishi ever used. Yes, they do fit the rear control arms. There is no magic behind these joints __________________ John a.k.a. The Steaming Pile o' VR4 Last edited by Pile o' VR4 : 10-22-2007 at 10:14 PM.

08-13-2007, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
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08-13-2007, 11:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
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08-13-2007, 12:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
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08-13-2007, 12:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pile o' VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yakima, WA Drives: '92 VR4 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag You're missing the point. You CAN run on down to your local parts store to get a joint. No need to get one from a "vendor." Also, there are varying qualities of joints out there. The one I purchased has a LIFETIME WARRANTY. I'm going to assume that the person you are referring to would normally retail for ~$21.49 and come with a 2-3 year warranty. But alas, I cannot stop you from wasting money. I can get the very same part for $25-30 cheaper, locally and immediately and I'm telling you can too.

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08-13-2007, 12:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
itzatol Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Falls Church, VA Drives: 98 3000gt SL Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag thanks! __________________

08-18-2007, 10:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
CurtVR-4 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego Drives: 3000GT VR-4 Red1996 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag Bump for an awesome thread! Installing mine tomorrow! __________________ 1996 3000GT VR-4, 96k, Turboxs rfl BOV, K&N, Magna-flow exhaust, Southbend TZ, gutted precat, Prosport boost gage, MBC, remote start/turbotimer...

08-20-2007, 01:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
leet Now with 100% more NSX Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Belgium / Michigan Drives: 95 NSX-T Trader Rating: (24)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag I got mine from here http://www.3kgtparts.com/balljoints.htm this is the same guy that sells them on 3si for really good prices once in a while __________________ the stealth is officially for sale, PM for info

08-21-2007, 03:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
CurtVR-4 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego Drives: 3000GT VR-4 Red1996 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag These do not work for a 96 vr-4. I ordered them at kragen as per the part number given on this thread and they are not even close. I have to take them back now and wait for parts with my car sitting in the garage.

09-24-2007, 08:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
larssunde New User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Drives: 1995 Dodge Stealth Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Ball joints for the 3/S without the arm/leg price tag Hi Guys, has anyone put these balljoints (FA1673) on a '95 base model Stealth? I have the $86 a piece on order and if I can use these, I'll be more than happy to cancel that order. Thanks ...