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05-01-2008, 10:37 AM
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Re: Are all wheel spacers bad news?
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Useful spacer information here: Why do people frown so much on spacers?? Clint
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05-01-2008, 11:44 AM
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Re: Are all wheel spacers bad news?
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Or if your using old ass bearings from a 1956 ford on a spindle... A spacer is nothing more than additional offset(actually decreasing our stock offset). Rims all come with different "spacers"... 3s's need alot of offset/spline size to clear the brakes... thusly we dont have huge amount of cars with huge deep dish rims. Wheel Offsets - Discount Tire Co. My 3 piece forged rims have a built in "spacer" that lets me adjust the offset on the rim simply by putting a different size in... is it a spacer? yep... but its the rim. Here's a good read... Suspension Tuning For A Track Using Wheel Adjustments - Tech File - Stock Car Racing Magazine Wow actual racers suggesting using spacers?  Here's a pimp Willwood 2 inch spacer (its actually a "adapter") but hey... Wide is good https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#backspace hmm i wonder what spacers supercar is running on his race car? I doubt those wheels stick out like that normally...
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05-01-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Are all wheel spacers bad news?
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You'll notice in the article you quoted that the author advises against any spacer above 6mm (11/42" which is just over 6mm) for the very reason discussed in the thread I linked to: A spacer increases angular force on wheelstuds. Do some racers decide that this is a worthwhile risk? Sure. But there's simply no reason to do it when we can buy wheels that fit correctly without spacers. Any racer who is successful enough that he needs to adjust his car's track width for individual tracks also has the sponsorship and budget to own 2 or 3 sets of track wheels. A person like the OP (who, as far as I can tell, does not intend to race) will probably be fine using a spacer--even a thick and shittily-designed one. None of the amateur racers, club racers, ice racers, ALMS teams, or NASCAR Busch series teams that I've raced with or spoken with use spacers. Further, while I can't be absolutely sure, I believe that Philip runs an 18x12 (could be 18x11) wheel with an offset near zero, with no spacer. It's been a while since we had that conversation. It's really a simple matter: spacers change the forces the wheelstuds are subjected to. If you're comfortable with that, fine. But I've yet to encounter a vehicle so finicky that there isn't a multitude of wheels, in a multitude of diameters and widths, that will fit. I suppose you could say that, with the 3/S, occasionally you have to screw with the Dave point a little more than is ideal to avoid using a spacer, but I'd rather do that than beat on the wheel studs. Clint |
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05-01-2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: Are all wheel spacers bad news?
Of course it would be better to avoid them but if done correctly there is no problems using them.
Spacers should only be used to allow you to place wheels that you couldnt normally... But like I said if you do it correctly it is fine to use spacer for normal street use and light racing use. I doubt these guys are doing anything close to ALMS or Nascar... I dont know why you guys think everyones doing 200 mph with these cars.... or running the 24 hours of lemans... its not happening... spacers are fine. |
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