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hawk362 · 02-21-2008, 10:32 AM

It is a shame more N/A members want nothing to do with it, and go wasting so much money on expensive mods with very little outcome in power such as those phelonic spacers, flywheels, cam gears, any borla top name exhaust for a simple catback, ecu reflashes, chips, electric intake sc/turbos, ported tb's, carbon fiber parts, just not worth it in the end.

Some of those mods listed are great and I def. wish I had if I had loads of cash, but to me not worth the price-power ratio, just doesn't add up as well as a nice nitrous kit.

Again I know nitrous isin't for everyone, but I really think a lot of members looking for significant power gains that don't want to fund a tt conversion, or deal with labor should look into a nice nitrous option.

Doulos85 · 02-21-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hawk362

What kind of nitrous kit are you running?

It's a Custom Assembled and Tuned Kit from FSR Motorsports here in Cali. They do a ton of 3s stuff and do awesome work. But it's all Holley Parts.

http://www.fsrmotorsports.com/

That's my car on the main page =)

cwic · 02-21-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doulos85

What was your AFR? How Lean?

Currently I'm Spraying 65 Shot of Nitrous with a Slightly larger Jet for Fuel. I'm tuning way rich to keep it nice and safe for my DD. my AFR while Spraying is like 10.6 - 11.0

Greg

mine dont go under 11.5 but that was with a sniffer. waiting to get headers on to do a wideband and then maybe try to talk the guys at ips to doing a test run on a 100 shot.

EDIT..over 11.5
clay

Adollarwodbnice · 02-21-2008, 10:17 PM

See I would love to use N20 but this is my nice car so if I hurt my nice car I gotta drive the one I don't like which sucks. I mean a beater is a beater but whats a beater w/o a nice car? Anyway I mean if a 50 shot is gonna show a large gain for a good price and my motor is healthy then I don't run the risk of hurting anything?

Doulos85 · 02-22-2008, 11:57 AM

Get a Wideband when you get your Nitrous and Watch it carefully. Also, Start with a Small Shot 35 or 50 and set up watching your AFR and keep the Tune nice and rich. Also, Make sure you only Spray at WOT and above 3000RPM and you'll be fine. I Run a Window Switch and a WOT switch to make sure I cant screw up my Motor.

Maximal · 02-22-2008, 02:48 PM

Widebands won't help you much with nitrous. I would go with an EGT gauge if you want to keep an eye on everything.

Terry

3startuna · 02-22-2008, 05:08 PM

the biggest thing to watch is timing.

Ive seen an engine running 10:1 a/f blow up with N20 because the timing was too far advanced

Maximal · 02-22-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3startuna

the biggest thing to watch is timing.

Ive seen an engine running 10:1 a/f blow up with N20 because the timing was too far advanced

If there's knock on our cars it should automatically retard timing...I'm running a 150 shot with no timing control and don't have any knock.

Terry

Doulos85 · 02-22-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximal

Widebands won't help you much with nitrous. I would go with an EGT gauge if you want to keep an eye on everything.

Terry

Why is this the Case? Why is an EGT more helpful than a Wideband for Nitrous?

Maximal · 02-22-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Doulos85

Why is this the Case? Why is an EGT more helpful than a Wideband for Nitrous?

When a car get dangerously lean the EGT will go way up to the point where stuff starts melting. Unless you're tuning way safe (like 10:1 for AFR) a 11.5-12:1 can still get you a high EGT because nitrous burns a little hotter.

Terry

View Poll Results: Have you considered toying with nitrous for your N/A or FI motor?
I already am spraying.	9	13.43%
Thinking about it, perhaps?	38	56.72%
No need for it, I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.	14	20.90%
NOS are you crazy, I dont wan't my car to blow up!!!	6	8.96%
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02-21-2008, 10:32 AM	#31 (permalink)
hawk362 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Drives: 3000GT Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Updated NITROUS thread for N/A, any newcomers? Upgrades shots or new stories? It is a shame more N/A members want nothing to do with it, and go wasting so much money on expensive mods with very little outcome in power such as those phelonic spacers, flywheels, cam gears, any borla top name exhaust for a simple catback, ecu reflashes, chips, electric intake sc/turbos, ported tb's, carbon fiber parts, just not worth it in the end. Some of those mods listed are great and I def. wish I had if I had loads of cash, but to me not worth the price-power ratio, just doesn't add up as well as a nice nitrous kit. Again I know nitrous isin't for everyone, but I really think a lot of members looking for significant power gains that don't want to fund a tt conversion, or deal with labor should look into a nice nitrous option. __________________ ATX 95 Base 3000GT High stall torque converter, tranny cooler, Off brand intake, 3sx downpipe, test pipe, custom exhaust, 3sx underdrive pulley, NGK PLUGS, lamborghini doors, 18 inch black rims, limo tints, GTR HIDS, Alpine in dash dvd screen *ZEX 100 WET NITROUS SHOT* "WOW YOUR CAR IS SO SPARKLY, WHITE, AND DAMN SEXY YOU MIND IF I SNORT IT?"

02-21-2008, 10:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
Adollarwodbnice 99 SLut Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hammonton, NJ Drives: 99 SL Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Updated NITROUS thread for N/A, any newcomers? Upgrades shots or new stories? See I would love to use N20 but this is my nice car so if I hurt my nice car I gotta drive the one I don't like which sucks. I mean a beater is a beater but whats a beater w/o a nice car? Anyway I mean if a 50 shot is gonna show a large gain for a good price and my motor is healthy then I don't run the risk of hurting anything? __________________ Robb's Stop Being Fat Sale Cali to Fed Spec conversion

02-22-2008, 11:57 AM	#35 (permalink)
Doulos85 !!Too Much Nitrous!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SoCal Drives: 99 3kgt Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Updated NITROUS thread for N/A, any newcomers? Upgrades shots or new stories? Get a Wideband when you get your Nitrous and Watch it carefully. Also, Start with a Small Shot 35 or 50 and set up watching your AFR and keep the Tune nice and rich. Also, Make sure you only Spray at WOT and above 3000RPM and you'll be fine. I Run a Window Switch and a WOT switch to make sure I cant screw up my Motor.

02-22-2008, 02:48 PM	#36 (permalink)
Maximal Supporting Vendor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Painted Post, NY Drives: '91 Stealth "ES" Trader Rating: (182)	Re: Updated NITROUS thread for N/A, any newcomers? Upgrades shots or new stories? Widebands won't help you much with nitrous. I would go with an EGT gauge if you want to keep an eye on everything. Terry __________________

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02-22-2008, 05:08 PM	#37 (permalink)
3startuna Damn It! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Drives: Without Traction Trader Rating: (17)	Re: Updated NITROUS thread for N/A, any newcomers? Upgrades shots or new stories? the biggest thing to watch is timing. Ive seen an engine running 10:1 a/f blow up with N20 because the timing was too far advanced __________________ 96 3000GT FWD TT -Rebuilt 2 bolt 8:1 block, balanced stock internals, valve job, 99 Lifters, Maximal Performance Motor mounts and valve cover!! Quaife LSD, ACT Max Extreme 6 puck, RPS flywheel, Greddy emanage Ultimate, custom fuel system i designed my self, profec B spec2, walbro 255lph, stock turbos, Braided steel upper and lower radiator hoses, KNN FPIK, FMIC, FM oil cooler, cusco Oil catch can, stillen DP, IPS 3" single, Full AC delete, stripped interior, Corbeau Forza 2 seat, 2 inch harness, ALL Greddy electronic gauges, brakes: 4 piston calipers from Yogurts TT, Hawk pads, Valvoline DOT 4, Russells steel lines Coming soon: Tranny number 3 Special thanks: IPS, Maximal Performance, 3SX, Evans Performance and all 3si and FL3s members that sold me parts