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fastergt · 09-14-2006, 08:29 AM

I would try adding a little heat from a torch. just make sure that the brake line is disconnected from the caliper as you can easily burn a hole through rubber brake line and ignite the flammable break fluid. The same goes for the AC compressor pulley.

Good luck on the remainder of the rebuild.

Best regards, FASTERGT

user3977 · 09-14-2006, 04:33 PM

only 5.5 hours i dont want to hear any excuses :P

sublime_whatigo · 09-14-2006, 05:54 PM

How you doing Prowler? You post way too long of stuff for me to read, been way to busy lately. I'll be glad to help out when I get some time to read the thread, lol. Otherwise keep posting questions.

ProwlerGT · 09-14-2006, 11:19 PM

Well thanks for the support ya'll. No doubt I'll keep writing. It helps take the edge off especially when I'm having problems with the car.

fastergt - Heat huh? I'd thought of heat, but I thought that heat would expand it and make it worse. Then I thought of cold, but how would I make it cold enough to shrink just a lil bit. I don't have a torch - Would a propane tank setup work, like the small kind you get in Sporting Goods at wal-mart?

sublime_whatigo - Hey man. Thanks for the shout out. I know... I know... I sure can write at some length. I have a calling to become I writer one day. I just know it.

user3977 - Good to note. In a few months I'll be closer to you all the time than where I live now.

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fastergt · 09-15-2006, 08:08 AM

Yes ProwlerGT, a propane torch from Walmart is exactly what I was referring to. Most hardware stores sell them as well. I have used them on bolts that would not loosen even with PB blaster applied. If you rellay screw things up and round off a bolt you can always weld a pipe to the bolt to loosen it. These are age old tricks.

Best of luck to ya and post some pics when you get the chance.

ProwlerGT · 09-15-2006, 10:39 PM

I had to reattach the caliper (driver front) in order to gain leverage to try and remove the bolt. I'm not going to take it too far once my new calipers arrive, but this is a good method to note for the future. Age old, but new to me.

Week and a half till I get back home to work on this.

fastergt - Could I use the propane dealy to weld the pipe to the bolt? or would I need a real blow torch and some weld stuff?

user3977 · 09-16-2006, 02:37 AM

vise grips

if that does not work go to sears they have bolt extractors.... put them on with a hammer and then use your impact to remove them.... if you break it who cares it is a craftsman they will replace it

..... sssshhhhh not like i have done anything like that.

fastergt · 09-16-2006, 11:24 AM

Generally speaking you cannot weld using a propane torch. I have seen weld sticks that the manufacture claims will allow you to weld with a common propane torch.
You could opt for a small electric welder. Some require 2220 Vac single phase and some 120Vac single phase. I have seen these sold at Sears and Home Depot.
The are made by Lincoln Electric.

FASTERGT

ProwlerGT · 09-16-2006, 08:15 PM

I like the weld and the extractor ideas, but since I've never dealt with a weld torch before and I stand the chance of igniting residual brake fluid I think I'll try an extractor especially since I'm not worried about screwing up the bolt any further anyway. I imagine the drilling using an extractor has to be done perfectly straight in at 90 degrees or else I'd end up ruining the threads inside the caliper itself right? or does using a bolt extractor assume that you will ruin the threads of the hole always?

ProwlerGT · 10-01-2006, 09:29 PM

Well now I have a problem. The new calipers I ordered from rockauto.com came in and now I realize why they were so cheap. They only came with the side of the caliper that has the pistons in it and remember that the reason I ordered the calipers was because I couldn't get my driver side caliper apart for rebuild. So now I'm basically just in the same place I was in before stuck with a bolt that won't come off. I'm going to try a couple things tomorrow (borrow some tools from a friend) and see where it gets me.

Q: The new calipers of course have all new stuff in them. The piston's have the rubber boot around them in the inside, but I noticed that there is a metal snap ring around the base of the rubber boot that surrounds the pistons. Do I remove this before installation? It just seems ODD that is there unless it is there in an attempt to hold the rubber boot along the length of the piston as it extends during braking. Comments?

09-14-2006, 08:29 AM	#41 (permalink)
fastergt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up I would try adding a little heat from a torch. just make sure that the brake line is disconnected from the caliper as you can easily burn a hole through rubber brake line and ignite the flammable break fluid. The same goes for the AC compressor pulley. Good luck on the remainder of the rebuild. Best regards, FASTERGT

09-14-2006, 04:33 PM	#42 (permalink)
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09-14-2006, 05:54 PM	#43 (permalink)
sublime_whatigo Hates Gravel Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: G.R. Michigan Drives: reliable car (nissan Trader Rating: (21)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up How you doing Prowler? You post way too long of stuff for me to read, been way to busy lately. I'll be glad to help out when I get some time to read the thread, lol. Otherwise keep posting questions. __________________ 92 3000GT VR4 Black Wheel Mafia - Member 002 Matt

09-15-2006, 08:08 AM	#45 (permalink)
fastergt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up Yes ProwlerGT, a propane torch from Walmart is exactly what I was referring to. Most hardware stores sell them as well. I have used them on bolts that would not loosen even with PB blaster applied. If you rellay screw things up and round off a bolt you can always weld a pipe to the bolt to loosen it. These are age old tricks. Best of luck to ya and post some pics when you get the chance.

09-15-2006, 10:39 PM	#46 (permalink)
ProwlerGT King Detail Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Orleans area Drives: 95 3000GT Base DOHC Trader Rating: (9)	ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival -Brakes, A/C, Vacuum, Radiator fan, Suspension & Steering I had to reattach the caliper (driver front) in order to gain leverage to try and remove the bolt. I'm not going to take it too far once my new calipers arrive, but this is a good method to note for the future. Age old, but new to me. Week and a half till I get back home to work on this. fastergt - Could I use the propane dealy to weld the pipe to the bolt? or would I need a real blow torch and some weld stuff? Last edited by ProwlerGT : 11-29-2006 at 06:12 AM.

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09-16-2006, 02:37 AM	#47 (permalink)
user3977 www.TN3S.com Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: clarksville, TN Drives: 91 stealth RT/TT Trader Rating: (2)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up vise grips if that does not work go to sears they have bolt extractors.... put them on with a hammer and then use your impact to remove them.... if you break it who cares it is a craftsman they will replace it ..... sssshhhhh not like i have done anything like that.

09-16-2006, 11:24 AM	#48 (permalink)
fastergt Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up Generally speaking you cannot weld using a propane torch. I have seen weld sticks that the manufacture claims will allow you to weld with a common propane torch. You could opt for a small electric welder. Some require 2220 Vac single phase and some 120Vac single phase. I have seen these sold at Sears and Home Depot. The are made by Lincoln Electric. FASTERGT

09-16-2006, 08:15 PM	#49 (permalink)
ProwlerGT King Detail Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Orleans area Drives: 95 3000GT Base DOHC Trader Rating: (9)	Re: ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival Thread - Start Up I like the weld and the extractor ideas, but since I've never dealt with a weld torch before and I stand the chance of igniting residual brake fluid I think I'll try an extractor especially since I'm not worried about screwing up the bolt any further anyway. I imagine the drilling using an extractor has to be done perfectly straight in at 90 degrees or else I'd end up ruining the threads inside the caliper itself right? or does using a bolt extractor assume that you will ruin the threads of the hole always?

10-01-2006, 09:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
ProwlerGT King Detail Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Orleans area Drives: 95 3000GT Base DOHC Trader Rating: (9)	ProwlerGT's 3000GT Revival -Brakes, A/C, Vacuum, Radiator fan, Suspension & Steering Well now I have a problem. The new calipers I ordered from rockauto.com came in and now I realize why they were so cheap. They only came with the side of the caliper that has the pistons in it and remember that the reason I ordered the calipers was because I couldn't get my driver side caliper apart for rebuild. So now I'm basically just in the same place I was in before stuck with a bolt that won't come off. I'm going to try a couple things tomorrow (borrow some tools from a friend) and see where it gets me. Q: The new calipers of course have all new stuff in them. The piston's have the rubber boot around them in the inside, but I noticed that there is a metal snap ring around the base of the rubber boot that surrounds the pistons. Do I remove this before installation? It just seems ODD that is there unless it is there in an attempt to hold the rubber boot along the length of the piston as it extends during braking. Comments? Last edited by ProwlerGT : 11-29-2006 at 06:12 AM.