NA 3.5L discussion - Page 8 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

AudibleSilence · 12-11-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xwire

most of the engines on Ebay are drop in for NA (after modifying the block in the rear for the rear motor mount)

Wait, so they are drop in but they require modification to fit?

John Monnin · 12-11-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AudibleSilence

Wait, so they are drop in but they require modification to fit?

What are you afraid of taking a grinder toyour block?

whitedragon · 12-11-2007, 05:44 PM

Seriously Audible, are you just trying to stir shit? Some people are actually trying to get good info in this thread.

Ok, to everyone else, the only expense i had was the motor. I did nothing else to the car, no tranny upgrades, no motor mount upgrades, NOTHING. So it cost me the motor and install cost, that was it.

I've had the 3.5 in the car since July of 06 and have had ZERO problems so far.

Purdue3KGT · 12-11-2007, 05:46 PM

well to me.. it sounds like a viable option and an alternative to a TT swap while retaining reliability of the N/A engine

3g3000gt · 12-11-2007, 07:03 PM

Basically <$2k, I will be getting mine started mid January hopefully If Christmas doesn't kill my bank account. Gotta love the holidays.

Purdue3KGT · 12-11-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Monnin

What are you afraid of taking a grinder toyour block?

Whoa wait... you live in Granger??? You aren't TOO far away from me... I live in West Lafayette. Maybe I could have you drop mine in

AudibleSilence · 12-11-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Monnin

What are you afraid of taking a grinder toyour block?

Not at all Johnny, just trying to avoid it if I can buy an engine that actually drops right in with no modification like the Pajero is supposed to. It would also save having to fab brackets and get creative with pump placement which i believe is necessary for tt converting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitedragon

Seriously Audible, are you just trying to stir shit? Some people are actually trying to get good info in this thread.

Ok, to everyone else, the only expense i had was the motor. I did nothing else to the car, no tranny upgrades, no motor mount upgrades, NOTHING. So it cost me the motor and install cost, that was it.

I've had the 3.5 in the car since July of 06 and have had ZERO problems so far.

It's a newly serviced engine..you AREN'T supposed to have problems if it was done right

It also is far less complicated than a tt, less crap to break and or fail on you. Honestly aside from some low end pick up registered by the ole butt dyno what gains can you boast? I just don't want people thinking that this is the next best thing to a tt swap in terms of performance based on fan boi hype. The OP's question has already been answered, he can get the same reliability from a freshly maintained 72.

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Originally Posted by Purdue3KGT

Whoa wait... you live in Granger??? You aren't TOO far away from me... I live in West Lafayette. Maybe I could have you drop mine in

John Monnin knows his shit

/statement

Stealthee · 12-11-2007, 10:49 PM

So wait... $2000 for 30 hp? Thats good spending?

I can get 75 hp on about $500.

AudibleSilence · 12-11-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthee

So wait... $2000 for 30 hp? Thats good spending?

I can get 75 hp on about $500.

Well I can see what they are saying about the low end torque, but it is just not cost effective for non-turbos (relative to a tt) when you could have similar hp for less money on a 72. Sure you won't have the immediate low end pull, but you will notice the increased power. Yes you then have to worry about reliability because you've modded it, but luckily there aren't many mods that can hurt the N/A relative to the TT. I'm sorry but 2k+ for a 30hp gain and a bit more torque is just foolish. Save the money for some bolts ons and basic servicing.

Point of fact, Brian's Modded SOHC is the fastest known SOHC that is still N/A running 15.5 @91mph. Terry's DOHC N/A has damn near every upgrade you could do to a 6G72 n/a and he runs a 150 shot with little or no problems. His times are comparable to that of a stockish -> BPU VR4. Both engines are fresh and well maintained..go figure.

TUFFTR · 12-12-2007, 12:13 AM

Well so far its cost me $1000 more to get the 3.5L over the 3L in australia.
Total so far is about $2500
For my time, money, and effort, I'd rather have a better building block to start with for some more initial outlay.
So far its just got 10mm leads, racing belts, red rocker covers and is now getting a few things polished up.

Soon to come are the adjustable cam gears, extractors and ECU.
Not going to turbo it because I'm sure this will haul ass once its in.

Also getting a manual conversion at the same time.

Now this is going into a magna, similar to the diamante.
but this is the only website ive found with DECENT 3.5L info on here so yeah i know its not a 3000GT or stealth but same sort of thing...

12-11-2007, 05:44 PM	#73 (permalink)
whitedragon STL3S Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis Drives: 98SL 3.5L Trader Rating: (3)	Re: NA 3.5L discussion Seriously Audible, are you just trying to stir shit? Some people are actually trying to get good info in this thread. Ok, to everyone else, the only expense i had was the motor. I did nothing else to the car, no tranny upgrades, no motor mount upgrades, NOTHING. So it cost me the motor and install cost, that was it. I've had the 3.5 in the car since July of 06 and have had ZERO problems so far. __________________

12-11-2007, 05:46 PM	#74 (permalink)
Purdue3KGT Boiler Up Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Drives: 97 3000GT;94 Rx-7 TT Trader Rating: (2)	Re: NA 3.5L discussion well to me.. it sounds like a viable option and an alternative to a TT swap while retaining reliability of the N/A engine __________________ 1997 3000GT SOHC [3SX Downpipe] [3SX Testpipe] [3SX Lightweight Pulley] [4" Air Intake] [Custom 2.5" Catback] [MSD 8.5mm Plugwires] [18" DR Rims]

12-11-2007, 07:03 PM	#75 (permalink)
3g3000gt Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winter park, Florida Drives: 1994 3000gt Trader Rating: (1)	Re: NA 3.5L discussion Basically <$2k, I will be getting mine started mid January hopefully If Christmas doesn't kill my bank account. Gotta love the holidays. __________________ Tony

12-11-2007, 10:49 PM	#78 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (78)	Re: NA 3.5L discussion So wait... $2000 for 30 hp? Thats good spending? I can get 75 hp on about $500. __________________ Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: my ass is really sore Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: this is most displeasing

12-12-2007, 12:13 AM	#80 (permalink)
TUFFTR JDM 3.5L 6G74 yo! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australialand Drives: Mitusbishi Magna Trader Rating: (0)	Re: NA 3.5L discussion Well so far its cost me $1000 more to get the 3.5L over the 3L in australia. Total so far is about $2500 For my time, money, and effort, I'd rather have a better building block to start with for some more initial outlay. So far its just got 10mm leads, racing belts, red rocker covers and is now getting a few things polished up. Soon to come are the adjustable cam gears, extractors and ECU. Not going to turbo it because I'm sure this will haul ass once its in. Also getting a manual conversion at the same time. Now this is going into a magna, similar to the diamante. but this is the only website ive found with DECENT 3.5L info on here so yeah i know its not a 3000GT or stealth but same sort of thing...

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