3SX Pulleys: Need Feedback - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

puffe516 · 09-17-2002, 10:58 PM

I was thinking about getting a new mod for my car, and I want the 3SX pulley. Can anyone give me feedback on it? Does it give more hp than the unorthodox pulley?? Any feedback is appreciated, thanks.

Bluv69k · 09-17-2002, 11:53 PM

Doing a 60k service now and just bought one today. It will be here tomorrow. I will let you know how it is.

Nd4Spd17 · 09-18-2002, 01:10 AM

Well the 3sx pulley is a better product. Its not an underdrive pulley so it doesnt slow down any of your accesories. The unorthodox pulley is known to slow those things down and dim the headlights. Its 1.7 pounds, vs. unorthodox's 1.5 pounds. (Stock is 6.7). The 3sx pulley is availible for all years and models including SOHC. Hp increases are reported to be 10-15hp. Hope that helps.

Danny

Vital Velocity · 09-18-2002, 07:20 AM

Im replacing my water pump so i decided to get the pulley. Ive heard nothing but good things about the pulley and about doing busssiness with 3sx. RIght now im extremly satisfied with the service. Hopefully it will get here in the nexct couple days

xtremewlr · 09-18-2002, 07:49 AM

Been doing a fair amount of research into this. Both pulleys offer about the same increase in HP due to a decrease in rotating mass. The 3sx pulley is the same diameter as stock and therefore is better if you have a high power stereo system. The weight differences between 3sx and unorthadox is minimal. My main concern has been the long standing debate as to wether using either of these pulleys will affect your engine life. The stock one is a harmonic dampner and pulley in one peice. Neither the unorthadox nor the 3sx are harmonic dampners. I know that many people have used the unorthadox pulley without any engine problems. The 3sx pulley is newer (I think) and therefore there isnt as much feedback on it that I have seen. I have some good links to the debate on the pulleys but they are on a different computer. I will post them here later.

hashiriya15 · 09-18-2002, 12:16 PM

I got the 3Sx pulley and I like it. I felt a noticable difference after I put it in. I've had it for about 4 months now and haven't had any problems so far.

theonlypheonix · 09-18-2002, 06:43 PM

puffe516, I don't want to start any flame wars on this topic yet again, as this topic has been very controversial in the past. But do you self a favor, search this board for the pros and cons of this mod, better yet do your own internet search and you'll see there are two sides to considering it. Then make your own decision, it will be as good as anyone elses guess. BTW the HP gains (15)sounds a little high. Ask all the common sense questions i.e. where are the dyno numbers to prove the claims of 15 HP and how does reducing rotating mass "make HP" ? But then again "its only money" and do "you pay to play" ???

Bluv69k · 09-18-2002, 06:49 PM

Got my pulley today and all I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this thing is light as a feather compared to stock. It weighs nothing. Can't wait to try it out god willing my timing belt is on right and my oil pressure problem is fixed. I have read underdrive pulley post for a few months now. And it seems people have bad opinions of them but they all have them and have 40,000 miles on them. Dosn't Matt Monett run one in every car he has. Don't see him complaining. If I spin a bearing I will blame the fact that my motor has over 100,000 miles, not a peice of rubber. If you think about it the belts are rubber so where is the pressure coming from? just my .02!!!!!

DVLISH · 09-19-2002, 11:39 AM

Ill be geting one in a few weeks so i cant wait either. And Pheonix wouldnt that be the same as when you go to lightened rims you car goes faster and heavier or bigger it will go slower do to the power it takes to spin and that whole rotationg mass theory. Im not genious but i have heard soem of the geeks talking about the rotation of mass on the subject of rims so i figure the same theory applies to this pulley, Its round like a rim and it rotates likes a rim so if you use a lighter pulley doenst take as much to spin it right? If i had a dyno i would baseline test and test afterwards but i dont know of one close to me. Cuz hell i would love to know the true horse of my car.

Audiophobe · 09-19-2002, 11:42 AM

I have the 3sx pulley and did feel a difference. I very much doubt 15HP, maybe 5-7HP is more reasonable but I believe that all your mods, ie intake, downpipe, ect., are better together than each is inividually. We all know the dampening rap and the theory behind it and frankly I did research and a search before I bought mine and found..... just that. Theory. I really did not find anyone who said that they put one in and had a problem, only those that would't do it for the potential problem. And the point has been made too, that ANY mod may have a potential hazzard as it is a variation from what the engineers of the car intended. So, if my car needs a rebuild in 60,000 miles instead of 75,000, I will have enjoyed it more too!

09-17-2002, 10:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
puffe516 3kgt Driver Join Date: Jul 2001 Drives: '95 3KGT NA Trader Rating: (2)	3SX Pulleys: Need Feedback I was thinking about getting a new mod for my car, and I want the 3SX pulley. Can anyone give me feedback on it? Does it give more hp than the unorthodox pulley?? Any feedback is appreciated, thanks. __________________ 1995 3000GT NA Still For Sale: -Ashtray -2 color NA indiglo gauges w/ switch (used) -2nd Gen Hood (Red)-pickup only

09-17-2002, 11:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bluv69k buy my car Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Drives: I can't drive 55 Trader Rating: (8)	Doing a 60k service now and just bought one today. It will be here tomorrow. I will let you know how it is. __________________ 2001 Lightning catz 9007 bi-xenon hids, CF radiator cover SOLD ! 1991 red VR4 New factory block( forged crank, forged rods), triple stack head gaskets, 3kgt stage 3 heads with oversized valves, ported lower intake, Big Bore throttle body and matched plenum, Fidenza cam gears, Ported and jet coated exhaust manifolds, jet coated DN precat eleminators, ATR downpipe with no main cat, custom catback, 3sx pulley, 650 turbos, DN Y-pipe, Rps stage 3 and fidenza flywheel, 99 lifters, SS brake lines, 18x9 snipers, drilled and slotted rotors, intrax springs, 3kgt short shifter, New leather, new carpet, Full apexi EL1 gauge setup, Blitz indiglo DSBC, Apexi BOV, supermac floormats and door sills, gto panel, ek2 rail mod, stillen intake, hot wire kit, Denso pump, S-AFC II, RC550 cc inj, aladdin a2000 remote start, push button start, reverse indiglo main cluster, greddy shift knob, sparco pedals, powdercoated plenum and valve cover, aluminum GTO plug plate, powdercoated aluminum dash vents, polished fuel rails, Hella H4 conversion, Hella 7500k Bi-xenon Hid kit. Hella fog lights with angel eyes and catz h3 bulbs

09-18-2002, 01:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nd4Spd17 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Drives: Really Fast Trader Rating: (0)	Well the 3sx pulley is a better product. Its not an underdrive pulley so it doesnt slow down any of your accesories. The unorthodox pulley is known to slow those things down and dim the headlights. Its 1.7 pounds, vs. unorthodox's 1.5 pounds. (Stock is 6.7). The 3sx pulley is availible for all years and models including SOHC. Hp increases are reported to be 10-15hp. Hope that helps. Danny __________________ 2003 Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe Stock for now. 1993 Dodge Stealth Sold 2003 Yamaha YZF-600R Stock. 2002 Cadillac Escalade 1999 Blue C5 Convertible Corsa Exhaust, Intake, Chrome Z06 Wheels, Hyperprogrammer

09-18-2002, 07:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vital Velocity Formerlly Ps933kgt Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tx Drives: 3000Gt/ c5 Vette Trader Rating: (18)	Im replacing my water pump so i decided to get the pulley. Ive heard nothing but good things about the pulley and about doing busssiness with 3sx. RIght now im extremly satisfied with the service. Hopefully it will get here in the nexct couple days __________________ *1997 Modded C5 Corvette For Sale-Ebay*

09-18-2002, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
hashiriya15 BIG DADDY Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego Trader Rating: (0)	I got the 3Sx pulley and I like it. I felt a noticable difference after I put it in. I've had it for about 4 months now and haven't had any problems so far. __________________ '97 3KGT Base Custom Cold Air Intake DNP Down pipe and custom catback exhaust w/ 2 Apex-i N1s KYB Struts w/ Eibach Springs Stillen cross drilled rotors and metal matrix pads w/ Goodridge Braided Brake Lines TEC front strut bar and Cusco rear bar (modified to fit from a Miata front) Denso Iridium spark plugs w/ Magnecor 8.5 mm wires and MSD ignition(MSD needs installing) Field Boxer fuel controller Kosei K-1 racing wheels 17x7.5 with 245/45 Kuhmo Victor Racer tires Short Shifter 3SX Crank Pulley Pitroad M style CF Hood Fidanza flywheel, ACT clutch, Quaife LSD

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09-18-2002, 07:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
xtremewlr SoCal3S.com Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Drives: 1995 3000GT FWD Trader Rating: (8)	Been doing a fair amount of research into this. Both pulleys offer about the same increase in HP due to a decrease in rotating mass. The 3sx pulley is the same diameter as stock and therefore is better if you have a high power stereo system. The weight differences between 3sx and unorthadox is minimal. My main concern has been the long standing debate as to wether using either of these pulleys will affect your engine life. The stock one is a harmonic dampner and pulley in one peice. Neither the unorthadox nor the 3sx are harmonic dampners. I know that many people have used the unorthadox pulley without any engine problems. The 3sx pulley is newer (I think) and therefore there isnt as much feedback on it that I have seen. I have some good links to the debate on the pulleys but they are on a different computer. I will post them here later.

09-18-2002, 06:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
theonlypheonix Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: IL Trader Rating: (0)	puffe516, I don't want to start any flame wars on this topic yet again, as this topic has been very controversial in the past. But do you self a favor, search this board for the pros and cons of this mod, better yet do your own internet search and you'll see there are two sides to considering it. Then make your own decision, it will be as good as anyone elses guess. BTW the HP gains (15)sounds a little high. Ask all the common sense questions i.e. where are the dyno numbers to prove the claims of 15 HP and how does reducing rotating mass "make HP" ? But then again "its only money" and do "you pay to play" ??? __________________ __________________________ '91 Stealth RT, DOHC, NA; many mods '93 Stealth TT, Stock Last edited by theonlypheonix : 09-18-2002 at 06:54 PM.

09-18-2002, 06:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bluv69k buy my car Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Drives: I can't drive 55 Trader Rating: (8)	Got my pulley today and all I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this thing is light as a feather compared to stock. It weighs nothing. Can't wait to try it out god willing my timing belt is on right and my oil pressure problem is fixed. I have read underdrive pulley post for a few months now. And it seems people have bad opinions of them but they all have them and have 40,000 miles on them. Dosn't Matt Monett run one in every car he has. Don't see him complaining. If I spin a bearing I will blame the fact that my motor has over 100,000 miles, not a peice of rubber. If you think about it the belts are rubber so where is the pressure coming from? just my .02!!!!!

09-19-2002, 11:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
DVLISH Dangeresque Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fairview Park, Oh Drives: 92 Stealth Trader Rating: (2)	Ill be geting one in a few weeks so i cant wait either. And Pheonix wouldnt that be the same as when you go to lightened rims you car goes faster and heavier or bigger it will go slower do to the power it takes to spin and that whole rotationg mass theory. Im not genious but i have heard soem of the geeks talking about the rotation of mass on the subject of rims so i figure the same theory applies to this pulley, Its round like a rim and it rotates likes a rim so if you use a lighter pulley doenst take as much to spin it right? If i had a dyno i would baseline test and test afterwards but i dont know of one close to me. Cuz hell i would love to know the true horse of my car. __________________ 92 Red SOHC Hybrid Body Stealth Team Insomniacs #28 ------------------------------------------------ Keeper of the SOHC Flame You're wrong wheel drive but youre okay by me - SANJAY http://community.webshots.com/user/dvlish www.moralitycheck.net http://www.myspace.com/moralitycheck http://www.myspace.com/dvlishdrummer

09-19-2002, 11:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Audiophobe Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CT Trader Rating: (4)	I have the 3sx pulley and did feel a difference. I very much doubt 15HP, maybe 5-7HP is more reasonable but I believe that all your mods, ie intake, downpipe, ect., are better together than each is inividually. We all know the dampening rap and the theory behind it and frankly I did research and a search before I bought mine and found..... just that. Theory. I really did not find anyone who said that they put one in and had a problem, only those that would't do it for the potential problem. And the point has been made too, that ANY mod may have a potential hazzard as it is a variation from what the engineers of the car intended. So, if my car needs a rebuild in 60,000 miles instead of 75,000, I will have enjoyed it more too!