222hp DOHC overrated? - Page 7 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

SOHC3000GT · 12-30-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyIsQuick

well also, our engine curves are kinda nasty..meanin the tuning on our cars are horrible...gotta remember, n/a's were made for daily driving, not racing.

ummm...TTs were made for daily driving too...

Stealthee · 12-30-2007, 09:55 AM

Ignore the dumbass known as rynz3s. Hes full of himself and thinks he has something awesome.

Hey Ryan. Once I fix the trans on my SOHC, I will be running right with you in ET times. I ran a 15.5 with a shit 60 AND a broken diff. All this on a SOHC. That was BEFORE the 3sx pulley, ground wires, solids, coilovers, and LSD. So even more mods, better tires, and the LSD and yep, I'm right there.

We can all see thru your bullshit so go sling it somewhere else.

91vr4n00maxima · 12-30-2007, 10:59 AM

222 is perfectly inline.

00/01 maxima. rated 222/217 and runs low 15s@92-94 weighing 3400 lbs. guess what a dohc 3s does at the track? about the same.

if yours is slower you either suck as a driver or your engine is worn or neglicted.

Stealthee · 12-30-2007, 11:07 AM

The Maxima has 37 more ft lbs of torque though. Thats a huge difference when the numbers are so "low".

i3igpete · 12-30-2007, 12:41 PM

i drove an 03 accord sedan 4-cyl at the strip to a 15.3 @ 90, so what does that mean? 160hp, 161tq. curb weight around 3050.

3startuna · 12-30-2007, 12:53 PM

our cars are about right 12-15% drivetrain loss is typical for FWD. Our issue isnt power its weight. 222hp with 3200lbs and some of us are fat too, so on average 3400 - 3500lbs yeah mid 15s 1/4 mile times are to be expected.

Now consider 222 hp in something light like a civic propels them to 14s.

Also as cars age and seals break down they lose power. Rings get old the valves dont seal as well as they used to. Compression gets lower overtime. Cats get partially blocked, or gets more restrictive. Dont be surprised if your car is making much less than the rated 222hp.

An engine overhaul can do wonders for an engine. U'ld be surprized. This is why i think a 120K tune up should be one of the first mods if ur planning on making power out of these cars.

3startuna · 12-30-2007, 01:04 PM

Also i agree if u want power go TT. thats the best bang for buck mod except for nitrous.

dodgemystealth92es · 12-30-2007, 01:10 PM

i find it very funny that people say the dohc is WAY overrated at 222 then say its actually 210, thats fuckin 12 hp, thats almost not noticeable, wtf, i find that funny, 12 hp, so with open exhaust, intake and a tune you gain over 12 hp and your over the "WAY OVERRATED" 222 crank. lol

12-30-2007, 09:55 AM	#64 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (77)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? Ignore the dumbass known as rynz3s. Hes full of himself and thinks he has something awesome. Hey Ryan. Once I fix the trans on my SOHC, I will be running right with you in ET times. I ran a 15.5 with a shit 60 AND a broken diff. All this on a SOHC. That was BEFORE the 3sx pulley, ground wires, solids, coilovers, and LSD. So even more mods, better tires, and the LSD and yep, I'm right there. We can all see thru your bullshit so go sling it somewhere else. __________________ Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: my ass is really sore Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: this is most displeasing

12-30-2007, 10:59 AM	#65 (permalink)
91vr4n00maxima est. sept, 2000 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: vancouver, wa Drives: slow 97 VR4 Trader Rating: (17)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? 222 is perfectly inline. 00/01 maxima. rated 222/217 and runs low 15s@92-94 weighing 3400 lbs. guess what a dohc 3s does at the track? about the same. if yours is slower you either suck as a driver or your engine is worn or neglicted. __________________ 97 VR4 12.417@111.16 9b time. full weight almost BPU 95 mark viii. 14.35@98 03 cobra vert. 4 mods=118mph traps 91 stealth TT. td05 18G, heads/cams, 3000lbs

12-30-2007, 11:07 AM	#66 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (77)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? The Maxima has 37 more ft lbs of torque though. Thats a huge difference when the numbers are so "low".

12-30-2007, 12:41 PM	#67 (permalink)
i3igpete ''the professor'' Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Drives: GoPigGo v2.0 Trader Rating: (74)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? i drove an 03 accord sedan 4-cyl at the strip to a 15.3 @ 90, so what does that mean? 160hp, 161tq. curb weight around 3050. __________________ Maddog Performance Engineering we are not mitsubishi trained technicians nor certified getrag rebuilders

12-30-2007, 12:53 PM	#68 (permalink)
3startuna Damn It! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Drives: Without Traction Trader Rating: (14)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? our cars are about right 12-15% drivetrain loss is typical for FWD. Our issue isnt power its weight. 222hp with 3200lbs and some of us are fat too, so on average 3400 - 3500lbs yeah mid 15s 1/4 mile times are to be expected. Now consider 222 hp in something light like a civic propels them to 14s. Also as cars age and seals break down they lose power. Rings get old the valves dont seal as well as they used to. Compression gets lower overtime. Cats get partially blocked, or gets more restrictive. Dont be surprised if your car is making much less than the rated 222hp. An engine overhaul can do wonders for an engine. U'ld be surprized. This is why i think a 120K tune up should be one of the first mods if ur planning on making power out of these cars. __________________ 96 3000GT FWD TT -Rebuilt 2 bolt 8:1 block, balanced stock internals, valve job, 99 Lifters, Maximal Performance Motor mounts and valve cover!! Quaife LSD, ACT Max Extreme 6 puck, RPS flywheel, Greddy emanage with all harnesses, custom fuel system i designed my self, profec B spec2, walbro 255lph, stock turbos, Nitrous, KNN FPIK, FMIC, FM oil cooler, cusco Oil catch can, stillen DP, IPS 3" single, Full AC delete, stripped interior, Corbeau Forza 2 seat, 2 inch harness, ALL Greddy electronic gauges, brakes: 4 piston calipers from Yogurts TT, Hawk pads, Valvoline DOT 4, Russells steel lines Coming soon: Tranny number 3 Special thanks: IPS, Maximal Performance, 3SX, Evans Performance and all 3si and FL3s members that sold me parts Last edited by 3startuna : 12-30-2007 at 12:58 PM.

12-30-2007, 01:04 PM	#69 (permalink)
3startuna Damn It! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Drives: Without Traction Trader Rating: (14)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? Also i agree if u want power go TT. thats the best bang for buck mod except for nitrous.

12-30-2007, 01:10 PM	#70 (permalink)
dodgemystealth92es Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Drives: dodge stealth es Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 222hp DOHC overrated? i find it very funny that people say the dohc is WAY overrated at 222 then say its actually 210, thats fuckin 12 hp, thats almost not noticeable, wtf, i find that funny, 12 hp, so with open exhaust, intake and a tune you gain over 12 hp and your over the "WAY OVERRATED" 222 crank. lol __________________