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Old 02-25-2013, 09:39 AM   #21 (permalink)
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the o2 looks fine to me, it seems you must have a big vacuum leak..

a datalogger would tell you more...
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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His 02's arent cycling at all. Get the THROTTLE POINTS- LOW set back to 25 and the HI back to 50. I can see you were confused but the THROT POINT LOW / HIGH needs to be set correctly. Msg back if your still having that problem with this fix.


The fuel point corrections (RPM NE POINTS) leave those at zero. You dont need negative or positive numbers yet.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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His 02's arent cycling at all. Get the THROTTLE POINTS- LOW set back to 25 and the HI back to 50. I can see you were confused but the THROT POINT LOW / HIGH needs to be set correctly. Msg back if your still having that problem with this fix.


The fuel point corrections (RPM NE POINTS) leave those at zero. You dont need negative or positive numbers yet.
Okay I will do exactly as you noted. I am working but at home currently. I will switch to 25% low - 50% high.

I will also check out those NE points and let you know.

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1.) Hi-Thrtl : 800rpm 0%
2.) Lo-Thrtl : 800rpm +50%
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notice 2. Lo-Thrtl : 800rpm +50% this should be 0%

at 38 seconds in the video you see 7200rpm set to zero. hit the left arrow key and it will go through all the rpm set points. make sure they are all 0. then do the same for the high throttle points.

The SAFC has rpm correction points for high throttle( when the throttle is 50% or more (if you set hight throttle point at 50%)

It has low throttle correction points for when it is less than 20% open (if your low throttle point is set to 20%)

Make sure all rpm points are set to 0%.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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notice 2. Lo-Thrtl : 800rpm +50% this should be 0%

at 38 seconds in the video you see 7200rpm set to zero. hit the left arrow key and it will go through all the rpm set points. make sure they are all 0. then do the same for the high throttle points.

The SAFC has rpm correction points for high throttle( when the throttle is 50% or more (if you set hight throttle point at 50%)

It has low throttle correction points for when it is less than 20% open (if your low throttle point is set to 20%)

Make sure all rpm points are set to 0%.
Okay cool will definitely do that during my lunch break and report back.

Thanks man I really appreciate it! You have no idea.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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New video.
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So I tried to put all NE points on zero but you cant adjust the RPM points any lower.

All RPM points are at 0%

Ex:

Ne1: 800 (lowest)
Ne2: 1200 (lowest)
ne3: 1600 (lowest)

etc.

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Yep the SAFC looks right for 360 injectors. If you still have the stock maf I would put it on to see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't then I would double check how you have the SAFC wired in and possible take it back out.
Doing one upgrade at at time makes trouble shoting much easier.

If it does make the problem go away then it could be you have the wrong MAFT instructions. There is a pdf which is for the first ones and is usually not used. Then there is a word doc for the newer ones. I know I tried setting mine with the pdf version and it just wouldn't work.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:21 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Yep the SAFC looks right for 360 injectors. If you still have the stock maf I would put it on to see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't then I would double check how you have the SAFC wired in and possible take it back out.
Doing one upgrade at at time makes trouble shoting much easier.

If it does make the problem go away then it could be you have the wrong MAFT instructions. There is a pdf which is for the first ones and is usually not used. Then there is a word doc for the newer ones. I know I tried setting mine with the pdf version and it just wouldn't work.
Okay I will start the troubleshooting by disconnecting the MAFT 2.02 and plugging in the factory MAF harness to the MAF. I will check the readings on my WB and see if anything changes. I will report back soon.

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New video.
MVI 2565 - YouTube


So I tried to put all NE points on zero but you cant adjust the RPM points any lower.

All RPM points are at 0%

Ex:

Ne1: 800 (lowest)
Ne2: 1200 (lowest)
ne3: 1600 (lowest)

etc.

This is perfect. The settings on your SAFCII are no longer the issue. 1 possibility down.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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This is perfect. The settings on your SAFCII are no longer the issue. 1 possibility down.
Yes that is a relief unless its a wiring issue. Definitely have a gremlin in the system but I will start troubleshooting in about 30 minutes when I am off of work.
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