That was my car. Trap/et were very close, I would say 2 days apart. Car might have been a bit heavier, but we are talking 2-3 gallons of gas max.
That was when I was making "620"
sweet. at 6 to 6.5 lbs/gal, i'm not gonna worry about ~15 lbs. what was your basic setup? i'll add it to the chart next chance i get.
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2003 Subaru Forester 2.5X, Blue, Sept. 2005, Daily Driver with 165 HP of Fury! At least it's AWD. 305 awhp, 325 awtq(BPU minus full catback exhaust)Mods at that time
13.02@104.67 (9bs, dp, fipk, 15.5 psi, bov, no cats, streetmax clutch, 1.77 60', decent conditions, full weight (even spare tire/jack)
13.09@105.08 (1.80 60', same conditions as above)
Beyond BPU: (meaning upgraded turbos/fuel/etc) before engine rebuild Mods at that time
12.38@113.00(20 psi, 110 octane, massive knock above 6k rpms)
12.41@115.10(ditto)
After Rebuild (by IPS): Current ModsDyno Tune by IPS
12.8@108 (12.5 psi dropping to ~11 @redline, 2.0 60', pump gas, my tune)
DR500s, 550cc injectors, DR Stage III Heads, 8.5:1 Ross pistons, SAFCII, AVCR. Tuned at and by 3SX.
Mike
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sweet. at 6 to 6.5 lbs/gal, i'm not gonna worry about ~15 lbs. what was your basic setup? i'll add it to the chart next chance i get.
the 1/4 pass? 620awhp was what it put down on the rollers. That was twin sidemount intercoolers still, 50 trims around 33psi, c-16, piss poor street tires, nitrous off.
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3780lbs, pump gas 3/s. 127.08mph-92 octane. (2005, ~'480'awhp)
best dyno: 720.2awhp/592tq.
blue 93 rt/tt-SOLD (and missed on occasion)
first page updated. niterydr's estimated hp added, lva3kgt chart added.
lva3kgt, being fwd it's a significantly different setup than the other dr500 chart on there, being awd. therefore, both charts go on, with the note of your's being fwd
first page updated. niterydr's estimated hp added, lva3kgt chart added.
lva3kgt, being fwd it's a significantly different setup than the other dr500 chart on there, being awd. therefore, both charts go on, with the note of your's being fwd
Ok, most would not call E85 "pump gas". While is is available at many gas stations at the pump and normal cars (flex fuel) use it it's really not "pump gas".
But makes for a funny thread title.
It was finally time for me to test out E85. Been wanting to for a long time, before I started building my DD. For those unfamiliar with it, it's about 105 octane but acts better than C16. It's burn characteristics are great and it cools the charge. Makes more power than race gas all for cheaper than 93 octane. Well, you do run about 30% more E85 then Gas, but when compared to race gas it's the hands down winner both in performance and cost.
I installed a dual pump dual feed system a few weeks ago. And today...I found it it does even more than expected.
I did base runs on the tune it was siting at at wastegate pressure/boost controller off, 14psi.
Then dumped the VP110 and put in the E85. NO timing changes were made at this point, All that was done was retuning the fuel map to hit the same AFR. You will see the AFR on the VP110 run matches the E85 run. The increae floored me.
Then I slowly turned up the boost until I hit the 24psi/625AWHP area that I hit a wall with on the VP110. Again TQ and HP were up. But funny thing, the HP wall disappeared. I kept upping the boost and unlike the VP110 that stopped at 625, It just kept going. 644AWHP, 660AWHP, 676AWHP.
Then I set it to 30psi. Held on. And Went.
707AWHP 620AWTQ. Out of Stock Heads and Cams.
the run was quiet but we are getting to that 30psi high HP area where heads start to lift so I ended he session there. I am happy with 707AWHP.
As known, E85 cools very well. With VP110 the coolant was getting to 207F at the end of 14psi runs. With E85 I could run 600+AWHP runs back to back and she never broke 193F, and next run would dip right back to 180F without a long cool down.
Car showed the extra power peak and the Gobs of extra power under the curve on the street. As many have mention in many articles, it seems to run smoother. The Pull under power is smoother. And it smells sweet while running.
Corn Kicks Ass.
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T4-995AWHP Uncorrected 6G72 3.0L C16
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Might I suggest for the Graphs...and I know it's excessive, maintain separate classes for the modified cars, so the stock one (main one) would have stock heads, stock engine, supporting mods like fuel, injectors are allowed, that way we know what is doing what all turbo something like the below:
Class 1, Stock engine+stock intercoolers+pump gas required, exhaust+intake+piping+fuel systems modification allowed (and this would be the primary graph)
Class 2, Cams/heads modified+stock lower end required, as above supporting systems
Class 3, Modified lower end (list changes) then other mods listed inc 6g74 conversions etc
Class 4, Modified Intercoolers+stock engine required, other supporting mods allowed.
Open Class, Full modified class (includles alternate fuels)
I know it gets a little complicated, but it would allow you to see the effect of changes to various systems without getting over the top (imho).
as I see it CC of engine makes a huge diff to how turbo's can handle, Cams make a huge diff & Intercoolers...the rest of it is much of a muchness (and would create too many threads for mod exhaust etc etc).
the graph showing spool+RPM+powa would be needed, timing slips not so handy since that induces a huge amount of other variables...so no real point to calculating this, of course go ahead if you wish.
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yeah, sorry, haven't been around as much lately. just got back from a deployment a week ago. so, chris, this last chart you're showing isn't t4, correct? the modlist on the title of the graph, is that the basics that could be added to the chart?
also, i have been trying to keep track of all the advancements made by the big power people as well, and if they have something new to add. but i don't have a ton of time to sift through it all. and i haven't been on here at all in a couple months, so i may have missed some. i try to ask guys if they mind me adding them to this thread, when they post them up, but sometimes i just never get a reply back. i tend to take that as a polite 'no'. but if anyone has any charts, that they think should be here, post 'em here and i'll see what i can do.
as for the graphs, the only thing i'll likely do is somehow split them up because they're getting crowded. something like a fwd and awd chart, something along those lines. similarly to how there is a seperate td04 and non-td04 chart. and, i almost hate saying this publicly because i'm afraid of the flood i might get, but if you want a custom look at the graphs, email me and i'll see what i can do. i have done it once for someone.
yeah, sorry, haven't been around as much lately. just got back from a deployment a week ago. so, chris, this last chart you're showing isn't t4, correct? the modlist on the title of the graph, is that the basics that could be added to the chart?
also, i have been trying to keep track of all the advancements made by the big power people as well, and if they have something new to add. but i don't have a ton of time to sift through it all. and i haven't been on here at all in a couple months, so i may have missed some. i try to ask guys if they mind me adding them to this thread, when they post them up, but sometimes i just never get a reply back. i tend to take that as a polite 'no'. but if anyone has any charts, that they think should be here, post 'em here and i'll see what i can do.
as for the graphs, the only thing i'll likely do is somehow split them up because they're getting crowded. something like a fwd and awd chart, something along those lines. similarly to how there is a seperate td04 and non-td04 chart. and, i almost hate saying this publicly because i'm afraid of the flood i might get, but if you want a custom look at the graphs, email me and i'll see what i can do. i have done it once for someone.
Correct, this is not T4, it's my personal daily driver, but that chart is now old. Here is the newest one.
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