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Old 05-02-2008, 07:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The one argument I can see for a better camera really has more to do with the lenses than the camera. I'm referring to depth of field, and the use of it to isolate subjects and turn a crappy photo into a good one. You can miic it to some extent with software however.
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While having a better camera won't necessarily make you a better photographer, If you want a nice dslr, go for it! There is no question that they take better pictures than a basic point and shoot.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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While having a better camera won't necessarily make you a better photographer, If you want a nice dslr, go for it! There is no question that they take better pictures than a basic point and shoot.
Depending on the photographer.
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Depending on the photographer.
I understand fully the point you are making, and agree with you.

But you have to admit the same picture with a point and shoot vs. a dslr will most likely be better quality etc. with the dslr. however a nicer camera can't make up for a bad photographer in any case.

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Old 05-03-2008, 09:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I understand fully the point you are making, and agree with you.

But you have to admit the same picture with a point and shoot vs. a dslr will most likely be better quality etc. with the dslr. however a nicer camera can't make up for a bad photographer in any case.

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There're plenty of times when a point-and-shoot would have taken a better quality picture than a D-SLR. In the hands of someone who just doesn't know enough about photography, or the SLR in general, their picture quality will just come out like shit too.

The ultimate reason being, is even though the SLR's have automated settings, they're not as automated as a point-and-shoot is, which belongs in the hands of a more inexperienced photographer. Too many people pick up SLR's and just expect that they're going to instantly take pictures worth gold and be able to charge people for them... And more times than not, those people are totally wrong.
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I understand fully the point you are making, and agree with you.

But you have to admit the same picture with a point and shoot vs. a dslr will most likely be better quality etc. with the dslr. however a nicer camera can't make up for a bad photographer in any case.

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not really. Dark-Hawk hit the nail on the head, and I have some examples for you below:













i took all those shots. can you tell which were taken using a DSLR and which ones by a P/S? can you really tell which is which (without looking at the EXIF, just by first glance?) a good DSLR can go a long way, but in the hands of an experienced photographer, a P/S can take just as stunning shots, if not better.
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I know what you guys mean, and I agree. However, I will still try to guess which ones are from your dlsr vs. p/s

1. dslr
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3. deffinitally dslr, however I saw our thread with this photo.
4. dslr
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6. p/s

I know where you are coming from, but no one would spend money on a dslr if they weren't better than a point and shoot.

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The one argument I can see for a better camera really has more to do with the lenses than the camera. I'm referring to depth of field, and the use of it to isolate subjects and turn a crappy photo into a good one. You can miic it to some extent with software however.
This is my main gripe with p/s camera's is the lens. They just don't give the clarity/brilliance that I want. They are fine for 300$ though.
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I know what you guys mean, and I agree. However, I will still try to guess which ones are from your dlsr vs. p/s

1. dslr
2. p/s
3. deffinitally dslr, however I saw our thread with this photo.
4. dslr
5. p/s
6. p/s

I know where you are coming from, but no one would spend money on a dslr if they weren't better than a point and shoot.

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1 - P/S
2 - DSLR

everything else you got. not bad

but in all fairness, yes a DSLR is better than a P/S. however, in full auto mode, a DSLR usually doesnt apply any noise reduction, sharpening and the like to improve an average photo. so a typical daytime shot, for example, comes out rather dull at times, compared to a vivid shot from a P/S.
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:08 AM   #30 (permalink)
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This is my main gripe with p/s camera's is the lens. They just don't give the clarity/brilliance that I want. They are fine for 300$ though.
That's what I meant. The cameras/ image sensors aren't necessarily better between DSLR's and P&S's, so the lenses really set them apart. There are however, lenses available for SLR's that make them look terrible. With digital, you can do alot with software if needed/ wanted.
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