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Old 04-20-2017, 03:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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G'day all,

New user here - just thought I'd post an initial message. I have always liked the Mitsubishi turbo sports cars, and in the past I have owned ;
1. Sigma Turbo (which the previous owner put a 2.6L in, with a Garrett T04 turbo - it flew......)
2. '84 JB Starion - charcoal grey/silver exterior with the word STARION in pin striping effectively written on the doors/burgendy interior
3. '84 JB Starion - burgendy/champaigne exterior, burgendy interior, had a JA bonnet on it for some reason (with the scoop).....

I remember having a magazine centrefold of a 3000GT on my bedroom wall when I was a teenager (long time ago now). I always loved the 3000GTs but got busy with life, then wife, then house, then kids, etc. and never got around to following up this 'want' in my early life .....

Now 46, I would love to get one, hopefully in as original condition as possible and to keep it that way, but darn they are rare as hens teeth!

I have a couple of concerns with getting one now, this far down the track.
1. Ability to get parts should something fail (I'm not interested in being a hoon with one but accidents can still happen), and the cars are pretty old now too, so things are prone to fail sooner or later.
2. Being that I am a computer tech, not a car mechanic, I would need a mechanic to take care of general servicing and any faults etc. Does your average mechanic have a clue how to fault find potential issues in a car like a 3000GT or would you need to take it to a specialist of some kind?

With the above in mind, would it even be wise to look for one in 2017!? I'm a little nervous in spending the time/money to purchase a 'good' vehicle, hoping nothing goes wrong because there could be a parts issue / no-one knows how to fix it etc.

So I would appreciate your thoughts on these topics, and anything else that may be problematic with owning such a nice looking vehicle.

So far from what I have seen, my preference would be a later model, in white mist, the twin turbo version (yep, that is being a little picky for a rare car!) - its just a preference.

Andrew.
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Where are you located? Quite a few members across the country that either have full shops or work on the side.

Clean examples can be found still. Mechanical issues can be fixed relatively inexpensively but you could spend a small fortune restoring one. I'd start with the level of interior/exterior you want.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome to the boards!

There is a lot to learn! The later years are some of the rarest... 98 is THE rarest VR4, and the 99 is a close second. You can look, but they will be hard to find... especially in Australia! (you posted this in the Australia subforum, so I'm assuming...)

There's lots of reading you can do. I'll give a really brief breakdown.

1st gen
91 & 92 - Have a 2 bolt block... which for all intents and purposes means it's the weakest engine available. Can hold like 450ish hp reliably
93 - Has the upgraded 4 bolt block... has held upwards of 700... I'd say 600 reliably. It's significantly stronger.

2nd gen
94 - Only year that has every option (all wheel steering, glass headlights, big sunroof, active exhaust, active aero, etc. etc.). Also has a 'hybrid' ECU (somewhere between OBDI and OBDII
95 - Again, hybrid ECU, no glass headlights, every option was still available at this time
96 - First year with true black interior (previous had charcoal or tan). OBDII ECU
97 - Facelift, they started dropping options (active aero I think? IDK, can't remember)
98 - Again, rarest, and has same facelift as 97. Also has flashable ECU.

3rd gen
99 - New facelift again (the most popular look), also has flashable ECU

That's a super high overview. Hope it helps some! Do lots of reading!
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome !

Thoroughly recommend that you buy one.
Stumbled on to these cars late. First one I bought at age 50 changed my life for the better.
Great cars, reliable, and if you do your research no big drama to service and look after.
Study up on this forum, get relevant workshop manuals, take note of where people are buying parts.
You will find after a while its not the cars that bring the most satisfaction. It is the people you meet everywhere you go owning one. GTO, 3000GT attract them like a magnet.
If you use it like it should be used out on the open road you are going to have some great experiences.
We drove our original 99 right around Oz in 2012. Perfect car for a trip like that.
At 124,000km and after pulling the transmission and deciding to not renew the original clutch 12,900km trip last year to attend the NG.
Always sorry to see these cars cooped up in the city. Like a racehorse locked up in a stable.
One thing led to another with me and I ended up with 5 99's.
Tell the truth Co-pilot and I have 8 vehicles on full rego at the moment.
We should sell 1 or 2.
If you decide to take the plunge send me a PM.
You can view up to date info and pics on our cars in " Garage "
Click on my user name to get into profile, then hit garage, all 5 are there.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Welcome!

Where are you located? Quite a few members across the country that either have full shops or work on the side.

Clean examples can be found still. Mechanical issues can be fixed relatively inexpensively but you could spend a small fortune restoring one. I'd start with the level of interior/exterior you want.
Howdy - I am an Adelaide boy currently in Newcastle, NSW at the moment, but will be back in Adelaide again by next year. I stumbled across this forum as I was trying to see what information was available for these awesome rare cars. It was good to see some aussie's talking about them at least!

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Old 04-21-2017, 02:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Howdy futurevr4man,

Thanks for the breakdown of models. I've had a look at a few youtube videos of them to learn up on the different models. Its a shame such a good car seems to have gotten mixed up in some weird issues with their advertising campaigns......it looks like they were somewhat forgotten almost with the car industry at the time.

Since I only thought one model existed, I was initially interested in the first gen. Since looking around and realising there have been face lifts along the way I am now more keen on the later models. I still they they all look fantastic, but, everyone has a preference. The difference between 98 and later must be fairly subtle, it seems there's really two main chassis differences. I'll continue to research tho.

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Old 04-21-2017, 04:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Welcome !

Thoroughly recommend that you buy one.
Stumbled on to these cars late. First one I bought at age 50 changed my life for the better. Great cars, reliable, and if you do your research no big drama to service and look after.
Hey there RuralGTO! Looks like I'll be doing the same, catching on to these later in life! That is probably my main concern actually, the ability to service it and get repairs done if required, due to the rarity of them.

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We drove our original 99 right around Oz in 2012. Perfect car for a trip like that. Always sorry to see these cars cooped up in the city. Like a racehorse locked up in a stable.
One thing led to another with me and I ended up with 5 99's.
Tell the truth Co-pilot and I have 8 vehicles on full rego at the moment.

If you decide to take the plunge send me a PM.
You can view up to date info and pics on our cars in " Garage "
Click on my user name to get into profile, then hit garage, all 5 are there.
Unfortunately I'll be living in the city when in Adelaide, however absolutely it will get some country time......
I did have a look at your garage! 5 of them! No wonder there are not many around for us to buy, you have them I love the white colour, and yours are almost all white, very nice indeed!

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We should sell 1 or 2.
Heh, well........your garage looks very enticing. I'm very impressed with your ability to get these cars in the first place - from auctions in Japan! I'm just having a look on carsales.com.au and gumtree.com.au at the moment to sus out what is available, for what etc. I'm a bit picky though, in that I would want a car as close as possible to original condition in terms of mods, and the overall condition. Naturally this means you pay a bit more, but I'm not a mechanic so would need it to be good.

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I did have a look at your garage! 5 of them! No wonder there are not many around for us to buy, you have them I love the white colour, and yours are almost all white, very nice indeed!



Heh, well........your garage looks very enticing. I'm very impressed with your ability to get these cars in the first place.

Andrew.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the kind words.
325 TT GTO's from Aug 98 to July 2000 produced in the JDM.
(+ 287 99 VR4 in USDM = 612 total production. )
There are plenty to go around.
My guess is that there could be about 50 of this model in Australia now.
There are 7 of the 79 2000 calender year TT GTO's in Australia that I know of.
I know for sure from researching serial numbers and state rego checks, there are a few gems hidden away belonging to people who don't get on the forums or facebook at all.

Last five years about two really good ones have turned up each year.
Do your research, be patient and be ready.
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Didn't realize we were in the Australia section. Lol. (Using phone)
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Hey buddy. I also part out GTO's of the "need to be off the road kind"...

I've a low km 60,000 k dismantled Gen 2 and two Gen 1s on the go atm...

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