Dr-1200

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by camryetxedos

Hello all,

Sorry for this stupid question but if i understand, the 82 mn compresssure is the exducer diameter (for the DR1200 ball bearing !) ?

Thank you,
camryetxedos

The DR-1200's are a 76mm compressure, not 82. the 1300's are a 82mm.

This thread is nearly 3 yrs old lol The first 2 sets of DR-1200's I made were 82mm compressures (Nelson, and Bill Buel got these 2 sets) Then I found a different compressure that spooled better and supported about the same HP so I changes it. The DR-1200's that were on my car when it ran 9.0 were 76mm.

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by GTO68

Very nice question and i have an other. All can you say me what is the number inside the Turbine Housings?



Is the 0.48 AR?

Saphir

If those are your turbos those are WRONG, I never saw the turbos I had them drop-shipped to you from my turbo builder, but it you have .48's you have the wrong housings. And I will make him send you the correct ones.

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by GTO68

No answer SnakeSkinner??

Do you remember my last order in your shop? I sent $3000 to buy the DR1200DBB with 63A/R!!

Dbb Dr1200 ?

And this ths "DR1000 or 12000" at my home:





And you can see on the compressor housing 0.60 A/R for the compressor! and now this is the Znorris DR1200DBB

http://www.3si.org/forum/f4/new-dbb-...bo-kit-395954/



WITH A 0.70AR

I never see a T04E 60 trim, 0.60 A/R with more 500hp!!!

And this is your 82mn compressure:





Are you sure that my turbo are the DR1200?? DBB yes but 1200, not possible!

I wait your reply,

Saphir

those should not be t04E 60 trims. those should be Garret GT wheels. Less you got shipped the wrong turbos.

Give me the measurements of the turbine wheels also, I think you simply have the wrong Exhaust housings. But if you truly have the wrong full turbos I will get the correct ones shipped to you. Thats what I get for having anything drop shipped, and not hand inspecting it.

As for the Comp housings, if you want a .70 compressure housing I can get you them but thy require some mods to make fit in the rear. But when I ran 9.0 with DR-1200's it was on the exact same compressure housing you have T04B .60's.

If you want DR-1300's (82 mm comp wheels, like are on my car now)) we can do that to but thy will surge less you do T04S ported compressure covers. Thy are a little harder to fit.

[GTO68]

those should not be t04E 60 trims. those should be Garret GT wheels. Less you got shipped the wrong turbos.

Give me the measurements of the turbine wheels also, I think you simply have the wrong Exhaust housings. But if you truly have the wrong full turbos I will get the correct ones shipped to you. Thats what I get for having anything drop shipped, and not hand inspecting it.

As for the Comp housings, if you want a .70 compressure housing I can get you them but thy require some mods to make fit in the rear. But when I ran 9.0 with DR-1200's it was on the exact same compressure housing you have T04B .60's.

If you want DR-1300's (82 mm comp wheels, like are on my car now)) we can do that to but thy will surge less you do T04S ported compressure covers. Thy are a little harder to fit.

Ok...Please stop!! My english is bad but i'm not stupid!!

In France we haven't 9 second 3000GT with 2900lbs but we know how max hp can make produce a turbo !

-We know what is a compressor map,
-We know what is the inducer and exducer,
-We know how calculate the power with cfm ( or lbs/mn ) and pressure ratio
-I know why i bought a 63 AR and not 48 for the turbine exhaust!
-We know how support HP a 0.60A/R compressor and 0.70A/R
-Etc..Etc..

And for all, if you want to understand go to : TURBO FAQ AND Info...... - IH8MUD™ Forums

THIS TURBO CAN'T SUPPORT 600HP FOR SUR!!!!, they are similar or they are your DR1000.

Maybe it's a wrong order from your distributor and i hope!!

For me ,

Send me the good turbos and the shipping cost to sent your turbos
or
Refund my money and shipping cost to sent your turbo.

Saphir.

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by GTO68

Ok...Please stop!! My english is bad but i'm not stupid!!

In France we haven't 9 second 3000GT with 2900lbs but we know how max hp can make produce a turbo !

-We know what is a compressor map,
-We know what is the inducer and exducer,
-We know how calculate the power with cfm ( or lbs/mn ) and pressure ratio
-I know why i bought a 63 AR and not 48 for the turbine exhaust!
-We know how support HP a 0.60A/R compressor and 0.70A/R
-Etc..Etc..

And for all, if you want to understand go to : TURBO FAQ AND Info...... - IH8MUD™ Forums

THIS TURBO CAN'T SUPPORT 600HP FOR SUR!!!!, they are similar or they are your DR1000.

Maybe it's a wrong order from your distributor and i hope!!

For me ,

Send me the good turbos and the shipping cost to sent your turbos
or
Refund my money and shipping cost to sent your turbo.

Saphir.

I'll say it AGAIN, send me the messurments or your wheels. If thy are NOT my DR-1200's I will send you DR-1200's. But if what my DR-1200's are YOU dont like, I dont know what to tell you. Fact 76mm DR-1200's with .60 a/r TO4B compressor covers have suported ~930hp at the WHEELS, Thy have also run 9.0 in the 1/4 mile. These are facts, you cant argue with them. You can guess what the Comp Map for the turbo is all you want but all you are doing is guessing. Not to mention whats on a Comp. MAP and how a turbos realy preforms on a car are 2 TOTALY different things, go look at the GT-35R, and GT-42 dynos out there were the cars have put more power to the wheels then thy are suppose to support at the crank.

I got a question for you, if you know so much about turbos, and don't like my turbo choice WHY did you buy turbos from me? I would guess that you wanted something that is proven to work, and the DR-1200's are PROOVEN to work. You could have simply plaid the guessing game and got something that would not preform like MENNY others have.

But from what I can tell from the Pic those are DR-1200's thy just simply have the wrong Exhaust housings.

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by GTO68

And for all, if you want to understand go to : TURBO FAQ AND Info...... - IH8MUD™ Forums

O ya and for this part, I have forgotten more about how turbos work, and how to make a car fast then you will ever know. And not just on paper, in the real world.

I am trying to help you so I recommend you cut the attitude.

Like I said before if you have the wrong turbos, or exhaust housings or what ever We will make it right. But at this point till you get me the rest of that info the only think I see that is wrong is you got .48 Exhaust housings not .63 if that picture of the Exhaust housing you posted is of the turbo we sent you.

[SnakeSkinner]

The exducer Should be 76mm and the inducer should be 57mm on the compressor, thats a DR-1200

The DR-1000 is 75mm Exducer, and 53.9mm Inducer

The Stage 3 turbine wheel is 56.6mm and 64.9mm

[GTO68]

Originally Posted by SnakeSkinner

The exducer Should be 76mm and the inducer should be 57mm on the compressor, thats a DR-1200

The DR-1000 is 75mm Exducer, and 53.9mm Inducer

The Stage 3 turbine wheel is 56.6mm and 64.9mm

Yes the size are exact!! for the compressor and the turbine!

Just a question... What is the A/R for the compressor housing for the DR1200 and DR1300 ... Please!

If i understand , the .60 a/r is for the DR1200 and .70 a/r is for the DR1300? is correct or i'm wrong?

Thank's ,

Saphir

[SnakeSkinner]

Originally Posted by GTO68

Yes the size are exact!! for the compressor and the turbine!

Just a question... What is the A/R for the compressor housing for the DR1200 and DR1300 ... Please!

If i understand , the .60 a/r is for the DR1200 and .70 a/r is for the DR1300? is correct or i'm wrong?

Thank's ,

Saphir

I can do them aether way, but normally the DR-1200's will be a .60 A/r B cover, if somebody wants a .70 E cover I can do it that way but it requires a bit of work to get to fit in the rear to clear the rear valve cover.

The 1300's will normally be a .70 E cover but I can also do them with a To4S ported cover but this requires a spacer to go between the header and the head in the rear to space the header 1" away from the head to make the turbo clear the rear valve cover.

[GTO68]

OK...

But the power will be different if the A/R is different .60 vs .70 ! No?

And for my turbo ( the compressor ) with 76mn exducer and 57mn inducer is the same that the GT3076R with 50lbs/mn for the flow map and the GT3076R is rated @ 500 ~ 525 hp with .60A/R ( Trim 56 )

Blouch turbo:

-Garrett T Series T04E 60 trim Stage 3 0.63 .60 A/R: rated @ 500hp
-Garrett T Series T04E 57 trim Stage 3 0.63 .60 A/R: rated @ 500hp

ATP Turbo:

-Garrett T3/T4E, T04E 57 trim compressor Stage III turbine wheel .60 A/R:Great 450HP turbo
-Garrett T3/T4E, T04E 57 trim compressor Stage III turbine wheel .60 A/RGreat 475HP turbo
-Garrett ball bearing CHRA, T04E 57 trim compressor wheel, stage III turbine wheel .60 A/R 450HP turbo

Blouch , ATP or PTE turbo and other brand with similar trim and .60 A/R have all the the same power 450 to 500hp with 57 trim and .60 A/R

But if i follow all brand on the market, all turbo with .70 housing and 60 trim ( if the trim is 60, it's sure that the exducer or inducer is bigger that mine turbo isn't it?) all turbo are rated @ 600hp ( like Your custom DR1200 )

And if i follow the Znorris turbo or Nelson or BENH!!! From GTOUK ( he bought your turbo this year the DBB 1200) with .70 A/R and ?? but i'll go in U.K to check.

And If i follow Ray Pampena , i'm right!!

Private Message from Benh:

The ones you have there seem to be 0.6, but i cant read it propperly. If they are 0.6 they are not DR1200s. the turbos look slightly small to me also.

Hope that helps,

Cheers,

Ben.

From Ray Pampena

hey brother
i see your post.. you are right. that is NOT a 600hp turbo!

From Benh

Hello mate,

I did take a photo but now i've left the poxy camera at work! The AR is 70, definately. I looked when i took the photo.
Cheers,
Ben.

You don't understand!! I bought the DBB DR1200 because I want Your custom Turbo!!!

But for me and for Ray Pampena, it's not 600hp turbo! It's 500hp turbo!! The order is maybe wrong!!

-All .70 A/R are with 60 Trim and not 56!!!
-All 56 Trim are rated @ 500hp exect the GT3082/GT3582R with 61.4mm ind 82.0mm exd.
-I never see a 76mn exducer with .70 A/R

Saphir