Billet 3.0L Crank??

[mitsuman03]

Originally Posted by Devilmightcry

Ray is reviung his stock crank up to 9k. i don't think 1000 more rpm with a fully balanced crank with good oil pump and good dampner would make that much difference. still it depend on power band. maybe there is no need to rev that high. there is a resone people won't push their car to 700 or more whp.one they can't afford it or they are scare of craking or braking or flexing crank and spuning bearings. i'm sure bilet crank can solve some of the problem if not all.

crank or not..that valvetrain is gonna take a beating.....you cant compare the actions someone takes on there own car to how others are to handle the matter. Sure, ray revs his motor to big numbers, and pushes big numbers. But, the difference is, he can pull out a tool set from his pocket and fix something when and if it breaks alot easier then most can grasp the concept of how an engine works. Some people have a much better understanding of "how it works" then most and know when to push the limits, while others just keep pushing till the wallets start to cry and scream rap!!!...

[TooFast4Radar]

Originally Posted by chops

There seems to be a few people who have looked into this and didn't see any reason to go through with it as a stroker crank would only be a little more. Any more opinions?

Robert

Apparently IPS is almost done with a 3.4L stroker kit. By the time someone purchased an aftermarket crank to OEM specs, rods, pistons, and did the machine work they might as well just go ahead and get the stroker since they're buying the exact same amount of hardware anyway. And then you're still stuck with 3.0L. Hell even 3.4L isn't really that much displacement, but 13% is better than nothing. I would highly doubt many people would buy a 3.0L crank when the second gen crank is fine. And then add to that what's already available with the 6G74 and soon a stroker kit from IPS. With the cost of making a limited run of cranks (and with limited run comes huge price) who would actually buy one? Even with a large budget, I still wouldn't.

For most people, a 550-600 AWHP street car is a monster. Past that is really not usable on the street and if you did the powerband would suck with a 3.0L. In this case the stock crank will work fine with few to no issues for the largest majority of people. The rest probably want more than a 3.0L due to a limited, narrow powerband. Most people on here aren't looking for dyno-queens like the Supra guys, especially on stock displacement.

It's a good idea, but I highly doubt you'd sell more than a couple of them unless you sold them for at, or less than, the cost of a new OEM crank. And I'd be willing to put money on that. That's my opinion so take it for what you will, but personally I could never see myself buying an OEM-spec crank for the price you'd need to sell them for to not lose your shirt on the deal.

[Ondontii]

Originally Posted by mitsuman03

crank or not..that valvetrain is gonna take a beating.....you cant compare the actions someone takes on there own car to how others are to handle the matter. Sure, ray revs his motor to big numbers, and pushes big numbers. But, the difference is, he can pull out a tool set from his pocket and fix something when and if it breaks alot easier then most can grasp the concept of how an engine works. Some people have a much better understanding of "how it works" then most and know when to push the limits, while others just keep pushing till the wallets start to cry and scream rap!!!...

lol well he thinks the valvetrain can handle 1k more but it cant. 9600 and those lifters start collapsing big time. If you try solids you will be able to run even less RPMS cause the solids are garbage. Nelson used to bitch all the time about the valvetrain and thats why he was all about getting custom stuff cause he is obsessed with 10k rpm stuff. Totally unnecessary for your average person who has this thing called a budget :P

[mitsuman03]

Originally Posted by ras463us

I don't need to call Ray. I am plenty capable of building my own engines. I've been doing it for years. Ray's strokers, to the best of my knowledge, are not billet cranks either.

This is getting to be a pissing match that doesn't need to be. All I asked of MVP is to look at the option of being able to offer other combinations besides the stock OE specs. Is that so fucking hard for you to understand! They asked for suggestions, and I gave them one. Enough said!

Just thought i would quote this for the fact of you being a moron on making such a claim against a possible fraudulent part.

So i guess we should trust MVP that just came out of the woodworking (for the 3/s community) to do some things for our cars and believe the materials they use in the parts they sell to us???

BTW.....to add to the LIST IPS is making theres strokers.

[dentheman]

so what happened to this thread??

[chops]

After this statement we felt it was in our best interest to not go ahead with it:



It's a good idea, but I highly doubt you'd sell more than a couple of them unless you sold them for at, or less than, the cost of a new OEM crank. And I'd be willing to put money on that. That's my opinion so take it for what you will, but personally I could never see myself buying an OEM-spec crank for the price you'd need to sell them for to not lose your shirt on the deal.

Regards,
Robert