What would i expect with these mods..

[wukillabeez]

my goal in the begining was to just have a cool car. now after 6months i want more speed...that is why i am in this bind right now. if i sold it i wouldnt get near enough money to buy a decent vr4, and then even if i did put the cash together, i would have to search forever for one and probably drive 500 miles to pick it up. not saying i wouldnt do that, but i would rather just dump some of my extra money into the car now. If i did all the BPU mods, and then a n2o kit, i think i would be pretty satisfied for now.

[Doomtech]

Originally Posted by Doomtech

Not that it is cheap but stop saying we can't mod an SL or base to get over 200whp...especially when there are plenty out there who have done just that.

BPU or not you CAN upgrade a Base or SL over 200whp... again a matter of what you want to spend.
Just sick of TT owners that think there is nothing else, and good luck finding a TT that runs well for $4500, last one I got in needed more than $1000 of work just to get it to run properly. A TT at that price is most likely going to have some real issues and a need for service that is going to cost a real pretty penny. Imma stop posting on this one cuz all I see are lies and flames on Base and SL owners that are 100% unfounded.
Go do some research, I have read in many places that a Base can get 200whp with 2 Basic Part Upgrades, and it doesn't seem too far fetched considering they have 220hp on motor. A decent FWD LSD will put alot of that power on the ground and a less restrictive exhaust will as well boost hp on motor and help get it to the wheels.
It is true what they say about opinions....

[natasreficul]

I'm out

[Doomtech]

Originally Posted by natasreficul

I'm not reading any post where Malaziel is flaming..

If someone recommends to you a TT as a better starting platform than a N/A, that has nothing to do with flaming.

I understand how it is. If you go out and buy a car, it's a done deal and you feel like you might as well do something with the car you have instead of looking for other options. We're simply recommending knowledge we know from other's experiences. I know plenty of people (including my brother) who have gone down the "I don't want a TT I'm gonna mod my N/A" road, planning to try and supercharge it or do a TT swap because it's more unique, and I don't know one person personally that has succeeded.
Yes there are plenty of people who have successfully done it, but it's not necessarily an easy task.

Hence, when we recommend a TT as a starting platform, it's just pointing out the easier option. We're not flaming, just pointing out the obvious.

But if you are attached to your car or determined to be different and mod your N/A, then don't listen to what we say, and go for it. We simply make recommendations.

How in the fuck does 3SX's race car have one goddamned thing to do with what we are talking about?

[Malaziel]

Originally Posted by Doomtech

Go do some research, I have read in many places that a Base can get 200whp with 2 Basic Part Upgrades, and it doesn't seem too far fetched considering they have 220hp on motor. A decent FWD LSD will put alot of that power on the ground and a less restrictive exhaust will as well boost hp on motor and help get it to the wheels.
It is true what they say about opinions....

200whp will not happen with a BPU NA. I don't know where you are getting this information but it simply isn't true. Also DOHCs are overrated from the factory. Their stock dyno numbers are not consistent with a car that has 222 crank horsepower. A decent LSD is going to cost over $1,000 without install. To the OP: I think getting an exhaust and N2O is exactly what you should do. If you shop around and know what you are doing it really won't cost you that much and is by far going to be the best bang for buck mods you can do. In the future if you get the need for some more speed you can save up and buy a TT.

[3KGT2NV]

sohc dyno results


check out this link.

Granted this was done with a sohc and you have a dohc but it will show the uphill (upmountain) battle you are looking at. for cheaper power go exhaust and n2o

[cbehnken]

Originally Posted by Doomtech

BPU or not you CAN upgrade a Base or SL over 200whp... again a matter of what you want to spend.
Just sick of TT owners that think there is nothing else, and good luck finding a TT that runs well for $4500, last one I got in needed more than $1000 of work just to get it to run properly. A TT at that price is most likely going to have some real issues and a need for service that is going to cost a real pretty penny. Imma stop posting on this one cuz all I see are lies and flames on Base and SL owners that are 100% unfounded.
Go do some research, I have read in many places that a Base can get 200whp with 2 Basic Part Upgrades, and it doesn't seem too far fetched considering they have 220hp on motor. A decent FWD LSD will put alot of that power on the ground and a less restrictive exhaust will as well boost hp on motor and help get it to the wheels.
It is true what they say about opinions....

neg repped for your lack of reading comprehension.

NA <> Turbos.

He said NA BPU. OF COURSE you can bolt in a stock TT turbo setup in a FWD 3/s and put down a lot of power.

Most people wouldn't consider added a full turbo setup to a car BPU upgrades anyway.

[julian2002]

fwd will put down a lot of power - you just won;t move forwards unless you have big slicks (then it won;t handle for sh1t) or complex mechanical or electronic wheelspin suppression, rwd / 4wd ftw on this one. that's not to say spinning up 500whp on a fwd madwaggon isn;t a whole lot of fun - just don;t expect to win many races when you have to launch at 1500 rpm cos anything over that shreds your tyres (ok i exaggerate slightly but you get my drift).

n/a's can make power but your bang for the buck is a lot lower than with a turbo motor. if you want big power with your n/a - up the capacity, cams, nos, intake and exhaust, etc. are the way to go.
if you want all show and a bit of go to stop those (badly done) turbo hondas showing you their arse, then as others have said nos is the way to go.

[ElDominio]

Maybe I'm spoile by the other 3/S I used to ride in....

Makes my 3/S feel like a cow, even though im pretty sure it isnt...
I would love to do all those stuff to my car... but someone doesnt let me because then I will "race" in it... Like the streets down here would let me do that....

I love my 3/S, theres only like 5 things I can think about that I love more...

*On topic*
You really should, theyre really fun cars and, if you think about it, it is very true.

You sell your SL for $5,000 and get the crappiest VR4 in the planet for that, or you can drop a few thousand in your SL and have a fun car.

[TooFast4Radar]

If you have a clean car and plan to keep it for a while (with the possibility of doing a turbo conversion later) I would do things you could transfer over to a TT. Namely transmission work.

The auto transmissions in our cars can handle a lot of power if you do the right things to them. Add an aftermarket transmission cooler rather than the one built into the radiator. Rebuild the end clutch, install a shift kit, change the transmission filter, upgrade valve bodies, and upgrade the torque converter. Thankfully we have the aftermarket support from the DSM side since they're virutually the same transmission.

I intend to turbo my ATX N/A and do some transmission upgrades. It's just too easy in Atlanta traffic.