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Old 12-22-2012, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Your first thought when seeing this thread title was probably something like "LOL! no comparison" You might want to think again.. the platforms are virtually identicle except for 160hp difference. 3 liter V6, twin turbos, AWD same weight, even same skid pad numbers!

GTR 2012*******99 VR4

3,800 LBS**********3,737 LBS

480 hp************320 hp

430 torq***********315 torq

1/4th 11.8 @118mph**1/4th 13.9 @102mph

0-60 3.8************0-60 5.5

Skidpad .93G*********Skidpad .90G

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The numbers just don't add up..

The VR4 is widly criticized on forums as being a
"whale" and virtually too heavy to compete as a real sports
car in stock form. They also admittedly call it a "grand touring" car
more then anything. HOWEVER.. It weights less then "Godzilla" GTR
that is considered one of the best supercars made..!?

Also the power numbers on our cars are a little strange.. Supposedly we have 320HP however the GTR with ONLY 160 hp more can go 0-60 in 3.8 seconds compared to our 5.5. However the most disturbing is 1/4th mile times. The GTR runs the 1/4th in just 12 seconds @ 118mph compared to our 14 seconds @ 102mph.

What im getting at is how can just 160hp drop 2 seconds off the quartermile time!?

Why do people call our cars grand touring due to the weight when the GTR is a "supercar" running a very similar platform that weights more.

So according to the data if we do a small turbo upgrade and get another 160 hp theoretically we will be just as fast as a newer GTR! From grand touring to Godzilla. Hard to believe..

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Old 12-22-2012, 08:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Vr4s are eons behind the gtr in technology, there is zero comparison between the 2 cars.
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Different technology? yes. no comparison? not according to the numbers
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Other than the weight and skid test the GTR trumps the vr4 in every way how is that a comparison?
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Different gear ratio and have you ever driven a car thats the same weight plus 160 more hp? thats a BIG difference. Plus the gtr has a 3.5 so down low it has more power as well, put a 3.5 with 15g's in our car and no one will think its slow.


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For being a supercar the gtr isn't really all that much. Like the op says, our cars can come close to the speeds of gtrs with a turbo upgrade. To be able to keep up with a gtr by only upgrading turbos is pretty cool. Especially for the price of the gtr .
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I'm sure the gtr can put down like 500awhp on stock turbos lol. Sure 9bs wont get you there. the gtr is just so much better in so many ways imo . And besides the fact the you have a 11 sec car right of the box were as a 3s stock is what high 13s with a good driver so make that 14s. Oh and the 0 to 60 mph is no comparison.
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Their gearbox helps for sure.

For info, here is a single turbo vr4 (Andre's car from Ukraine) vs a GTR

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Interesting none the less. Good info
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It would be interesting to increase a VR-4's power output to that of the GT-R, equip them with the same tires, and put them on the same track. I wonder if Jack T would ever want to try it?
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