GTO vs. 3000gt/Stealth

[devanrules]

Originally Posted by AudibleSilence

Meh...half the people here still think that the MR has the engine in the middle. I've only ever seen the 6pot brakes from AP and BBS wheels on a JDM car that was in some sort of exhibition. But it was listed as an option. Weird eh?



There are already low mile 1g's in Canada. He wants to covert to a stealth body, which will cost at least an additional 2k. He's better off buying a low mile 1g GTO TT and buying stealth parts here. . Paying say 7k+ just to spend another 3k in unnecessary body work = foolish considering his whole reason for importing one is to save money. If he were keeping the car stock, you'd be right. Since he wants to customize it, I can't say I agree. Most of the people in this thread stating that it isn't worth it are saying so because it isn't cost effective. Reading is indeed fundamental.

P.S. Has anyone else factored in that 1993 was the first year of the projection headlights (MKII)? GTO production began in 1990 remember? So if it is a 2nd gen you want Dev....

Hey Guys,

After doing some thinking and further research, I've come to the decision that I'm probably not going to do the conversion. maybe further on down the road, but not just yet. It's a lot of time and money that could be put into making it faster, and we all know that's more important .

As far as the 1993 MKII thing is concerned, I'm not quite sure what you mean. The 93 3S (which I own) was the 1st Gen, with the pop ups and all. The Second Gen (projectors) started with the 1994 MY (for all three). Production on the Gen 2 GTO started in July of 1993, meanining they will be legal here in July of 08. Hence, the waiting impatiently.

I could be wrong about that, so please, correct me if necessary, but that's what I've figured so far.

-Devan

[Pyr8]

Originally Posted by devanrules

The more research I do, the more I'm leaning towards an MR. All the Twin Turbo, AWD goodness of the regular GTO, but without the ABS, AWS or Active Aero/Exhaust. Not only does that mean less maintenance and cheaper repairs, but also less weight, which as we all know, is an issue with the GTO. Plus, being a quick daily driver and not a track star, I don't particularly need that stuff anyway....

-Devan

Good luck getting your hands one....its not impossible to find one in Japan....but its VERY hard! I have had my eye on getting one for about a year now and have only come across two or three at the auction house!

[Pyr8]

Originally Posted by ExExGuy

Oh, also... you won't see any 1994 GTO's until 2009. They've just started bringing over 1993's this year, so you won't be seeing a 2nd gen until next spring at the earliest. R33 skylines should start to appear (legally) sometime this summer, as well as MKIV twin turbo supras. The supras are pretty damn expensive though since so many people in the UK steal them up from Japan apparently...

As of the end of this year Canada will require that all cars being imported will have to be 25 years or older....the 15 year rule is out the door as of October I believe....so order it NOW!

[Pyr8]

Originally Posted by AudibleSilence

P.S. Has anyone else factored in that 1993 was the first year of the projection headlights (MKII)? GTO production began in 1990 remember? So if it is a 2nd gen you want Dev....

If you want projectors for a first gen....just get a set of bizenon HID's...Have them on my GTO....its like looking into the sun!

[Pyr8]

Lastly....there is a free HP upgrade to make all 1st Gen GTO's 320HP and not limited to 280...link here: Stealth 316 - Free Boost Mod for 1991-1993 3000GT/Steath

[ExExGuy]

Originally Posted by Pyr8

As of the end of this year Canada will require that all cars being imported will have to be 25 years or older....the 15 year rule is out the door as of October I believe....so order it NOW!

Please don't spew propaganda like that around without some serious facts to back such a statement up. Every forum seems to have users that put out different random dates with no data to qualify their statements.

Transport Canada has really backed off on this area since there is no solid data on safety reasons to prevent importing of overseas vehicles. My personal thought is that these rules are to protect Detroit as much as possible, but I digress. The UK does quite well with a 5 year rule, and I'd like to see North America adopt a similar rule....

ivoac.ca :: Imported Vehicles Owners Association of Canada <-- great resource for overseas importing of cars to Canada. They're really organized, with lawyers and all, and have really moved away from trying to protect the 15 year law to trying to have it revoked altogether.

[ExExGuy]

Originally Posted by kylejw

Not sure, really. It was brought up though, and it would be nice to be sure before spending $800. Maybe differences between a power seat verses non-power - if that's the case the designs would have to be mirrored.

I doubt there would be any problem though.

everything in the interior of a GTO is pretty much a mirror image of the 3000GT.

Ie: pattern for shift boot is backwards, pattern for ebrake handle is backwards, dash contours are completely backwards (including dash vents, etc)... pretty much everything is the exact reverse, so it would not shock me if the seat patterns were as well... even if they're similar, a USDM replacement leather would look terrible wrapped over a JDM seat.

I ran into this when USDM shift boot+ebrake boot arrived at my house, luckily was replaced at no cost...

[ExExGuy]

Originally Posted by devanrules

Well, I've been talking it over with a few importers, and the consensus seems to be that the 15 year rule is from the date of production, and with the 94 starting production in the summer of 93, they should be availible in late july. I'm still waiting to hear back on all the details though.....


-Devan

It is correct, a car is legal to be shipped to Canada exactly 15 years after the date it rolled off the production line. I didn't realize they started building 94's so early.... I guess that would make sense though! Sorry for the confusion on that... although really, I like the 1G rear a lot more than the 2G...

[calibornn1979]

let not forget the MOMO steering wheel option!