Wont go in first at all even with car off. - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

gto3000gt · 06-14-2008, 06:40 PM

I just bought a 92 vr4, 18 spline and the guy told me it just needed a clutch. So I hop in the car and tried shifting it in 1st gear and it wont go in at all. Then he told me, he thinks it might be the linkages binding or something. It was weird because while the car was on, I can put it in any other gear without engaging the clutch, and the car wouldn't go anywhere. So I pulled the transaxle off and completely removed it from the car so I can change the clutch and find what was binding. Found nothing, then I started playing with the levers on the transaxle and it still wouldn't go into first, but it'll go in all gears fine. Then again, when it was still in the car it went in all gears without pushing in the clutch while the car was on.

Do you guys think the tranny is broken?

Note: there was no tranny fluid in the car when I was puting it in 2nd to 5th gear with the car turned on without pushing in the clutch. Appearently he started working on it, but wanted to sell it as a whole so he put everything back.

Bret Brinkmann · 06-17-2008, 10:37 AM

Did he put the clutch back in? Unless that clutch is seriously jacked, even a slipping clutch wouldn't let you do that. Unless there is something blocking the linkage at the tranny, it sounds internal. It could be simpley the shift shaft on the tranny was removed and not reinstalled correctly. I would take that out first and inspect it. There is a 13 mm bolt on the front face by the shaft, two 10 mm up top by the shaft, then yank up sharpely with the shifter in neutral. There is a spring on the end of it inside the tranny, becareful it doesn't fall deep into the tranny. Use a pin magnet to get it out. Shine a light down in there and take a look at the rods you see in there. The bottom one has a metal bushing that is supposed to be pressed into the housing but they have been know to back out. Look at the roll pins that hold the forks on the rods and the shift shaft too.

On the shaft is a swivel looking thing and a set of lobes. The lobes should be aligned when reinstalling so that they go into the forks on the rods in the tranny. Apply a small amount of grease to the end of the shift shaft to prevent the spring from falling out of place.

06-14-2008, 06:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
gto3000gt Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Jose, CALI Drives: 92, 93 vr4 Trader Rating: (3)	Wont go in first at all even with car off. I just bought a 92 vr4, 18 spline and the guy told me it just needed a clutch. So I hop in the car and tried shifting it in 1st gear and it wont go in at all. Then he told me, he thinks it might be the linkages binding or something. It was weird because while the car was on, I can put it in any other gear without engaging the clutch, and the car wouldn't go anywhere. So I pulled the transaxle off and completely removed it from the car so I can change the clutch and find what was binding. Found nothing, then I started playing with the levers on the transaxle and it still wouldn't go into first, but it'll go in all gears fine. Then again, when it was still in the car it went in all gears without pushing in the clutch while the car was on. Do you guys think the tranny is broken? Note: there was no tranny fluid in the car when I was puting it in 2nd to 5th gear with the car turned on without pushing in the clutch. Appearently he started working on it, but wanted to sell it as a whole so he put everything back. __________________ 1999 3000GT: injen intake, test pipe/race pipe, 3sx adjustable camber and toe arms, 3sx/addco 1" front sway bar, drilled/slotted rotors, ground control coilovers, KYB GR-2 struts, 18' stern ST-2 rims (chrome). 99 kazz lip inside: panasonic deck, sony amp, 10inch sub Crashed 1992 3000GT VR-4: sold 1993 3000GT VR-4: (Daily Driver) IPS single shot, vac. reduction, egr block off plates, HKS ssqv, Blitz Dual Turbo Timer 1988 Nissan 200sx aka s12 (Fun car/ drift car/ project car) ca20e -> ca18det -> sr20det swap, 6 point roll cage, greddy fmic, mbc @ 12 psi, 3in turbo back, greddy rs bov, black safc II, walbro 255lph, s13 suspension conversion, s14 seats, gutted backseat back, SSR longchamps 7 offset, welded diff

06-17-2008, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Wont go in first at all even with car off. Did he put the clutch back in? Unless that clutch is seriously jacked, even a slipping clutch wouldn't let you do that. Unless there is something blocking the linkage at the tranny, it sounds internal. It could be simpley the shift shaft on the tranny was removed and not reinstalled correctly. I would take that out first and inspect it. There is a 13 mm bolt on the front face by the shaft, two 10 mm up top by the shaft, then yank up sharpely with the shifter in neutral. There is a spring on the end of it inside the tranny, becareful it doesn't fall deep into the tranny. Use a pin magnet to get it out. Shine a light down in there and take a look at the rods you see in there. The bottom one has a metal bushing that is supposed to be pressed into the housing but they have been know to back out. Look at the roll pins that hold the forks on the rods and the shift shaft too. On the shaft is a swivel looking thing and a set of lobes. The lobes should be aligned when reinstalling so that they go into the forks on the rods in the tranny. Apply a small amount of grease to the end of the shift shaft to prevent the spring from falling out of place. __________________ 250 RWHP If you want the exploded views of both 5 and 6 speeds or pics e-mail me at SavagTiger@AOL.com. 94 VR-4 Panama Green Tan Interior RPS II, gutted cats, flipped BPV, 3SX control arms, 3SX shift bushings, Red Line, Auto-Meter. Rebuilt TC, transaxle, steering rack, heads, and turbos. 360cc's blue printened with in 1%. New short block. RWD convertion and welded rear end.

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