Transfer Case Recall - IMPORTANT, Pleas Read!!!! - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

Jiveslug · 12-09-2002, 02:50 PM

Hey everyone! Ok, so hopefully all of you are aware of the recall that was sent out regarding the transfer case on the 92-99 VR-4 and 92-96 R/T TT. I have decided to do some research on this issue, as the recall, to me, looks to be woefully inadequate. This is what I have found so far.

First. I called Diamler-Chrysler (mine being a Stealth) and found out that the unit they would replace the old TC with is a new design that is supposed to rectify the problems with the old one. However, as the bullitin says, they will only replace the unit on your car if the old one is damaged. I wasnt satisfied with that because of the potential safety hazzard that having the TC lock up on you presents. Sooooo.......

Second. I called the NHTSA about the recall. Since the recall, according to D-C was approved by them. I discovered that it is my RIGT to have the old unit replaced regardless of condition due to the safety risk. The gentleman there said I should call the dealer, and if they refused to replace the TC, I should contact the FTC and report the dealership.

Third. Ok, so I called the and asked them about it. Sure enough, the absolutely refused to do replace the TC without evidence that it is damaged. BTW, if you live in So Cal, NEVER go to Dodge World in Torrance for ANYTHING. They are HORRIBLE. Anyway, they told me that if I got authorization from D-C, then they would replace it regardless of condition. So......

Fourth. I called D-C again and mentioned that I had talked to the FTC and NHTSA and I got the same thing. They will only do the recall as specified on the notice. There is also no one there who could authorize such a thing, nor did they have the contact info of someone who could. Anyone see a pattern forming here???

OK, so here is the deal. I need everyone's help. We need to have all of the TCs replaced, regardless of condition due to the safety hazzard that the Fed is well aware of. Everyone please call D-C or Mitsu and discuss this with them. Also, everyone NEEDS to register a complaint against both companies with the FTC in order for the Federal Government to get more involved. DONT let Mitsu or D-C push us around!!!!! I dont want to hear about someone getting killed because their TC failed at high speed and they plowed into a school bus. Everyone please add your thoughts and comments. Good Luck......

Jive.....

blusilvr · 12-10-2002, 08:53 AM

So the official recall excludes 1991 cars??? What makes them immune? Its the same TC...

defgh1 · 12-10-2002, 09:21 AM

1991 years are also covered under the recall.

speed3000gt · 12-10-2002, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jiveslug
However, as the bullitin says, they will only replace the unit on your car if the old one is damaged

What bulletin are you talking about? On the "recall notice" card i got in the mail it says " Your '91 year vehicle is in need of correction to assure its continued safe operation"

Tell your dealership there is a reason its called a RECALL and i can fax you a copy or give you the number of the dealership i got my recall notice from. Its in Dallas Tx though

If you havent already seen , heres what it looks like:

VR4god · 12-13-2002, 10:22 AM

My transfer case failed as a result of a leak or inadequate seal. As a result my output shaft on my transmission went bad along with the transfer case. I had to replace both and paid out 4800.00. They say on the recall notification that if i already paid for service in regard to the recall parts then to conatct them for a reimbursement. Did I read that right. A REIMBURSEMENT!!!! Yeee haaa Yippy yi Yay. Must be my lucky day.

Greg's 94 VR4 · 12-17-2002, 06:19 AM

I know someone posted them, but what are the TC part #s between the old TC and the "new" TC?

Greg's 94 VR4 · 12-17-2002, 07:26 AM

Ok, here is the BS. Good and Bad. BAD NEWS FIRST, the service mgr. tells me that they are going to order a new seal kit, because as he understands this recall, it's the "seals" that are faulty and "not the TC itself." A NEW BULLETIN IS OUT WHICH STATES THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE TC APART AND INSPECT IT, AND IF DAMAGED THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM TECHLINE TO GET A NEW TC. FOR NOW, THE NEW SEAL KIT HAS IMPROVED SPRINGS AND WHATEVER ELSE IS INVOLVED.

THE GOOD NEWS, there's also a recall on the front brake lines, they've been known to crack, so I'll get new ones for the bubble(sorry if you already know this). That's good! Mr. Mechanic, tells me that its a foolish recall because the trannies leak worst of all, and that the method behind the is recall makes no sense. If he had it his way, replace it with the New TC and call it a day.

So, without making a scene I politely say, "Ok, but if when you remove the TC and find that there is damage inside, will you then replace the TC?" Yes. Right now they are treating this problem as a "rebuild" because they feel its just a seal problem.

What I need to know is the part #s for the seals in a 94 3000.

For now, I have to wait until the parts come in. The downside is that if the TC reveals and internal problem, then my car will be tied up for ???time until they can locate a new TC

Digital_VR4 · 12-17-2002, 05:16 PM

I got my recall in the mail about 4 days ago.

I just got my 93 VR4 looked at today
from the local dealer , and they said the seals were leaking and they will have to order the kit.

1. Should I ask if they will replace my TC.
2. Should I ask if I can see it.

The last time I took my vr4 to this dealer
they replace fuel filter, and they didn't tighten my GT Pro y pipe, ...POP!!

Any other suggestions would be great.

VR4god · 12-17-2002, 06:06 PM

Kind of scary if you ask me, I would find another mechanic that is more capable.

hitemup21 · 12-19-2002, 03:06 PM

my engine is currently out along with the tranny and t-case. upon my inspection, i've noticed the input shaft and sleeve are both rusted. the input shaft is worn where the teeth look like triangles rather than rectangles. i'm not positive, but i'm pretty sure both of these were caused as a result of my t-case leaking. now, when i put my engine back in the car, obviously i'm gonna refill all the fluids.

are they gonna assume my t-case isn't leaking because it's full??

should i not "fill" it up all the way??

should i tell them i inspected it myself, or will they possibly try to say it's rusted because i removed it??

if they agree to replace my seals or the whole assembly, should i tell them i think the rusted sleeve caused the damage to my output shaft?? do i have a strong argument there??

thanks for your input,
mike

12-09-2002, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jiveslug Forum user Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: CA Trader Rating: (0)	Transfer Case Recall - IMPORTANT, Pleas Read!!!! Hey everyone! Ok, so hopefully all of you are aware of the recall that was sent out regarding the transfer case on the 92-99 VR-4 and 92-96 R/T TT. I have decided to do some research on this issue, as the recall, to me, looks to be woefully inadequate. This is what I have found so far. First. I called Diamler-Chrysler (mine being a Stealth) and found out that the unit they would replace the old TC with is a new design that is supposed to rectify the problems with the old one. However, as the bullitin says, they will only replace the unit on your car if the old one is damaged. I wasnt satisfied with that because of the potential safety hazzard that having the TC lock up on you presents. Sooooo....... Second. I called the NHTSA about the recall. Since the recall, according to D-C was approved by them. I discovered that it is my RIGT to have the old unit replaced regardless of condition due to the safety risk. The gentleman there said I should call the dealer, and if they refused to replace the TC, I should contact the FTC and report the dealership. Third. Ok, so I called the and asked them about it. Sure enough, the absolutely refused to do replace the TC without evidence that it is damaged. BTW, if you live in So Cal, NEVER go to Dodge World in Torrance for ANYTHING. They are HORRIBLE. Anyway, they told me that if I got authorization from D-C, then they would replace it regardless of condition. So...... Fourth. I called D-C again and mentioned that I had talked to the FTC and NHTSA and I got the same thing. They will only do the recall as specified on the notice. There is also no one there who could authorize such a thing, nor did they have the contact info of someone who could. Anyone see a pattern forming here??? OK, so here is the deal. I need everyone's help. We need to have all of the TCs replaced, regardless of condition due to the safety hazzard that the Fed is well aware of. Everyone please call D-C or Mitsu and discuss this with them. Also, everyone NEEDS to register a complaint against both companies with the FTC in order for the Federal Government to get more involved. DONT let Mitsu or D-C push us around!!!!! I dont want to hear about someone getting killed because their TC failed at high speed and they plowed into a school bus. Everyone please add your thoughts and comments. Good Luck...... Jive.....

12-10-2002, 09:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
defgh1 Member #0711 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dunnellon, FL Drives: 99 VR4, 04Volvo V70R Trader Rating: (7)	1991 years are also covered under the recall. __________________ 91 Sandstorm TT, 431 AWHP, 433 ft-lbs. , Kormex 25 spline,LSD, RPS CC Clutch, 4 bolt conversion, Super 15Gs, Stage 3 heads, DSM Sidemounts, PST Driveshaft, Blitz DSBS, HKS Exhaust, 3SX Downpipe, Supra Pump, 780 cc PTE Injectors, SX Fuel reg. & dual feed, AEM, Duel WJO Wideband, HKS DL1, Alcohol Injection. Photos: -->

12-13-2002, 10:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
VR4god vr4god Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, UTAH Drives: 1992 VR4 Trader Rating: (0)	My transfer case failed as a result of a leak or inadequate seal. As a result my output shaft on my transmission went bad along with the transfer case. I had to replace both and paid out 4800.00. They say on the recall notification that if i already paid for service in regard to the recall parts then to conatct them for a reimbursement. Did I read that right. A REIMBURSEMENT!!!! Yeee haaa Yippy yi Yay. Must be my lucky day. __________________ The VR4god has spoken...... 1992 VR4 (Red)* K & N * NGK double platinum Plugs .032/Magnecore KV85 wires* Gutted precats* Blitz DS BC 18" SSR wheels Pirelli Z+ Rated Tires* Black Leather Interior * Glass Top* Tinted windows * Many tickets* Speedbleeders* RPS Street Disc (SHIT) Now back to factory OEM* RPS 11 lb. Flywheel (SHIT) old one fell apart and RPS wont replace it under warranty as they claim.* Kenwood /JL Audio /Rockford Fosgate sound system* New Short block and rebuilt heads with 3rd Gen lifters as of 8-10-06* 15 G Turbos* Stock injectors right now soon going to 550 cc with SAFC II Greddy Type S BOV Borla Exhaust * Intrax Springs * PST 2 piece driveline * Slotted & crossdrilled Brake rotors * Walbro 255 Fuel Pump (hotwired) * EK2 Downpipe ....

12-17-2002, 05:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Digital_VR4 Slave to Gravity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ohio, USA Drives: WHITE 93 VR4 Trader Rating: (2)	TC I got my recall in the mail about 4 days ago. I just got my 93 VR4 looked at today from the local dealer , and they said the seals were leaking and they will have to order the kit. 1. Should I ask if they will replace my TC. 2. Should I ask if I can see it. The last time I took my vr4 to this dealer they replace fuel filter, and they didn't tighten my GT Pro y pipe, ...POP!! Any other suggestions would be great.

12-19-2002, 03:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
hitemup21 "Dum Sumbitch" Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Central Tacoma Drives: 04 GTO Trader Rating: (1)	what do you guys think about this.... my engine is currently out along with the tranny and t-case. upon my inspection, i've noticed the input shaft and sleeve are both rusted. the input shaft is worn where the teeth look like triangles rather than rectangles. i'm not positive, but i'm pretty sure both of these were caused as a result of my t-case leaking. now, when i put my engine back in the car, obviously i'm gonna refill all the fluids. are they gonna assume my t-case isn't leaking because it's full?? should i not "fill" it up all the way?? should i tell them i inspected it myself, or will they possibly try to say it's rusted because i removed it?? if they agree to replace my seals or the whole assembly, should i tell them i think the rusted sleeve caused the damage to my output shaft?? do i have a strong argument there?? thanks for your input, mike __________________ 2004 Goat

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12-10-2002, 08:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
blusilvr Certified PiMp Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: WhereILiveFreeorDie Drives: PiMpMobile Trader Rating: (64)	So the official recall excludes 1991 cars??? What makes them immune? Its the same TC...

12-17-2002, 06:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Greg's 94 VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Providence, RI Trader Rating: (0)	I know someone posted them, but what are the TC part #s between the old TC and the "new" TC?

12-17-2002, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Greg's 94 VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Providence, RI Trader Rating: (0)	Ok, here is the BS. Good and Bad. BAD NEWS FIRST, the service mgr. tells me that they are going to order a new seal kit, because as he understands this recall, it's the "seals" that are faulty and "not the TC itself." A NEW BULLETIN IS OUT WHICH STATES THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE TC APART AND INSPECT IT, AND IF DAMAGED THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM TECHLINE TO GET A NEW TC. FOR NOW, THE NEW SEAL KIT HAS IMPROVED SPRINGS AND WHATEVER ELSE IS INVOLVED. THE GOOD NEWS, there's also a recall on the front brake lines, they've been known to crack, so I'll get new ones for the bubble(sorry if you already know this). That's good! Mr. Mechanic, tells me that its a foolish recall because the trannies leak worst of all, and that the method behind the is recall makes no sense. If he had it his way, replace it with the New TC and call it a day. So, without making a scene I politely say, "Ok, but if when you remove the TC and find that there is damage inside, will you then replace the TC?" Yes. Right now they are treating this problem as a "rebuild" because they feel its just a seal problem. What I need to know is the part #s for the seals in a 94 3000. For now, I have to wait until the parts come in. The downside is that if the TC reveals and internal problem, then my car will be tied up for ???time until they can locate a new TC

12-17-2002, 06:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
VR4god vr4god Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, UTAH Drives: 1992 VR4 Trader Rating: (0)	Kind of scary if you ask me, I would find another mechanic that is more capable.