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Old 05-02-2008, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Stock driveline max power

I did some searching but I could not find an answer (not good at finding stuff on forums) - apologies if I am repeating.

I am curious what power should I start looking into rebuilding/upgrading the xfer case/tranny if I am looking to do mainly roll races.

Thank you for your input.

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Old 05-02-2008, 07:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you never do races from a dig you should be fine at almost any reasonable power level. However high power launches from a dig with sticky tires most definitely demand a transfer case bracket and upgraded output shaft.
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What do you have now? Its almost 100% reliant on how you drive the car also. I went from beaking shit all the time driving like a moron to never breaking the car again and getting the same times. But there is a limit eventually of course...

Better tecnique instead of rev/dump and hang on.

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Old 05-02-2008, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The 6-speed driveline is pretty good up to about 590-600 AWHP. About then you should brace the bellhousing if you're going to be launching the car. After that...ummm....yeah. It's solid.

The iron 6-speed T-Case is about bullet proof.

5-speed wise the aluminum T-case is the limiting factor. Not sure of an absolute power number but I would (personally) be weary of launching a 500 AWHP car with an aluminum T-case. You can get a billet T-case which holds up just as well (maybe even better than) the 6-speed t-case. T-Case brackets aren't exactly a proven fix. I wouldn't trust one to hold together an aluminum T-Case on a 600+ AWHP car.

5-Speeds have split bellhousings occasionally too but they seem to take more launch abuse than the 6-speeds...so that's good.
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Awesome, thanks for the info. You guys are great.
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what about outputshaft? how strong is that on a sixspeed? launching wise
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Default Re: Stock driveline max power

The output shaft that goes to the transfer case. It is possible to twist them off. There are upgrades available.

Brackets for the 5 speed t-case help the longevity of them greatly, but it seems they still end up breaking anyways on the higher (500+) power cars.
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Everything you need to know about your AWD drivetrain.

Here is a link detailing weak links, up grades, and a few other things you should know about. Just read the 1st post and follow the links.
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