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Theo_VR4 · 04-11-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ifithas2be

On a side note:

A member of my club is in dire need of an input shaft bearing, can anyone help. Cant find the part anywhere.

CRS Doesn't have a bearing? I ordered both input shaft bearings a couple weeks ago no problem.

ifithas2be · 04-11-2004, 01:35 PM

called CRS & Kormex no part

RobBeck · 04-11-2004, 02:06 PM

Damn that is most likely the most important and exposed to extensive wear bearing we have in the trans... I certainly hope this is not Out of stock to.
Is there any chance someone is holding out on us?

Rob

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Originally Posted by ifithas2be

called CRS & Kormex no part

Bret Brinkmann · 04-12-2004, 02:57 PM

CRS still does remans for Mitsu. I don't know if they deal witht he general public in such matters. I'm still waiting for a responce from Getrag. I called thema while ago and again today. They are hard to get a hold of. Unless the input shaft bearing/seal is leaking I wouldn't worry about it. They are usually pretty long lasting.

Gatecrasher · 04-12-2004, 03:04 PM

I thought all of the bearings in the trans were generic metric bearings? Every one that I've seen says Timken on it. Is the input bearing different?

RobBeck · 04-12-2004, 04:22 PM

I think that the input shaft bearing could NOT long lasting... especially with our cars. I have personally changed one of them in a DSM... with about 130k miles on it (I still have it if you want pics). It is thrashed and in a daily driven economy car. The problem with it is that the snout of the shaft does not ride in the rear of the crankshaft (maybe less important with transverse mounted engines

), and without that there is no real support for the input shaft aside for that bearing... and I bet you could imagine the forces that go thru that. Not that I would arbitrarily replace it, but I definitely would check it and not assume to be ok, even if there is little to no leaking from the seal.

Gatecrasher I would think it is just a common bearing, but seeing since it is Getrag who knows.

I spoke with TurboJJ today on the phone, talking about this issue... and he said that he HEARD that our trans has the same guts as the 911 6 speed Turbo... anyone know if thats true or how to confirm or deny it?

Rob

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Originally Posted by Bret Brinkmann

CRS still does remans for Mitsu. I don't know if they deal witht he general public in such matters. I'm still waiting for a responce from Getrag. I called thema while ago and again today. They are hard to get a hold of. Unless the input shaft bearing/seal is leaking I wouldn't worry about it. They are usually pretty long lasting.

SkortchGT · 04-13-2004, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBeck

I think that the input shaft bearing could NOT long lasting... especially with our cars. I have personally changed one of them in a DSM... with about 130k miles on it (I still have it if you want pics). It is thrashed and in a daily driven economy car. The problem with it is that the snout of the shaft does not ride in the rear of the crankshaft (maybe less important with transverse mounted engines

), and without that there is no real support for the input shaft aside for that bearing... and I bet you could imagine the forces that go thru that. Not that I would arbitrarily replace it, but I definitely would check it and not assume to be ok, even if there is little to no leaking from the seal.

Gatecrasher I would think it is just a common bearing, but seeing since it is Getrag who knows.

I spoke with TurboJJ today on the phone, talking about this issue... and he said that he HEARD that our trans has the same guts as the 911 6 speed Turbo... anyone know if thats true or how to confirm or deny it?

Rob

Thats very interesting....I wonder if our 5spds have the same guts also....

Gatecrasher · 04-13-2004, 06:10 AM

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I spoke with TurboJJ today on the phone, talking about this issue... and he said that he HEARD that our trans has the same guts as the 911 6 speed Turbo... anyone know if thats true or how to confirm or deny it?

I highly doubt that. Just based on the layout, our trans looks to be loosely based on Mitsubishi's own W5M33 AWD trans used in the DSMs and Asian market GTO SRs (among others) It's possible that our trans and the Porsche unit share some common engineering since they're both Getrags, but I'd really be shocked to see any parts (besides a bearing or two) that coule be a direct swap.

It's still worth looking into, but I wouldn't get my hopes up over it.

SkortchGT · 04-13-2004, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

I highly doubt that. Just based on the layout, our trans looks to be loosely based on Mitsubishi's own W5M33 AWD trans used in the DSMs and Asian market GTO SRs (among others) It's possible that our trans and the Porsche unit share some common engineering since they're both Getrags, but I'd really be shocked to see any parts (besides a bearing or two) that coule be a direct swap.

It's still worth looking into, but I wouldn't get my hopes up over it.

I was thinking the same thing. I would be great if more then 1 part matched our trans, however I don't want to get my hopes up over it.

Do we have any new info regarding parts available for our trannies?

Bret Brinkmann · 04-13-2004, 09:28 AM

An individual from Getrag refered me to some one at Mistubishi Motor Sales of America. I have sent that person an e-mail and left a voice mail message concerning parts suplliers and how to become a parts supplier. I'll let every one know what happens as soon as I hear back from them.

It has been my experience that the input shaft bearings are relitively long lasting, 100K+ miles is not unusual. I have only heard of one or two that have leaked. I haven't heard of any that have pitted. (Unlike the transmission in my old C1500.) The rollor tappered bearings on the ends of the shafts also last a relitively long time. I hear of more people damageing them through improper disassembly rather than an actual failure. I have seen several failures but only one was NOT due to a fluid level concern. (They didn't have enough fluid and ran dry basically.) The input bearing does look very similar to other input bearings. I'd be surprised if it wasn't used on at least one other model.

Some one could just call a Porsche dealer and talk to a tech. I bet they would be able to tell us what model the Getrags were in those trannys. Speaking of which, if createing a parts supllier does not work then I will attempt to find some sort of parts interchangeability between Getrag models with "servicable" transmissions/transaxles.

04-11-2004, 01:35 PM	#82 (permalink)
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04-12-2004, 02:57 PM	#84 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. CRS still does remans for Mitsu. I don't know if they deal witht he general public in such matters. I'm still waiting for a responce from Getrag. I called thema while ago and again today. They are hard to get a hold of. Unless the input shaft bearing/seal is leaking I wouldn't worry about it. They are usually pretty long lasting. __________________ When asked what the best thing to come out of Italy is, most Italians will tell you Ferrari.... But if you ask me it was Super Mario Brothers. 250 RWHP If you want the exploded views of both 5 and 6 speeds or pics e-mail me at SavagTiger@AOL.com. 94 VR-4 Panama Green Tan Interior RPS II, gutted cats, flipped BPV, 3SX control arms, 3SX shift bushings, Red Line, Auto-Meter. Rebuilt TC, transaxle, steering rack, heads, and turbos. 360cc's blue printened with in 1%. New short block. RWD convertion and welded rear end.

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Gatecrasher The Chaosbringer Join Date: Aug 1999 Drives: 81 Fiat Panda Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. I thought all of the bearings in the trans were generic metric bearings? Every one that I've seen says Timken on it. Is the input bearing different? __________________ North Bend Technologies - northbendtech.com

04-13-2004, 09:28 AM	#90 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. An individual from Getrag refered me to some one at Mistubishi Motor Sales of America. I have sent that person an e-mail and left a voice mail message concerning parts suplliers and how to become a parts supplier. I'll let every one know what happens as soon as I hear back from them. It has been my experience that the input shaft bearings are relitively long lasting, 100K+ miles is not unusual. I have only heard of one or two that have leaked. I haven't heard of any that have pitted. (Unlike the transmission in my old C1500.) The rollor tappered bearings on the ends of the shafts also last a relitively long time. I hear of more people damageing them through improper disassembly rather than an actual failure. I have seen several failures but only one was NOT due to a fluid level concern. (They didn't have enough fluid and ran dry basically.) The input bearing does look very similar to other input bearings. I'd be surprised if it wasn't used on at least one other model. Some one could just call a Porsche dealer and talk to a tech. I bet they would be able to tell us what model the Getrags were in those trannys. Speaking of which, if createing a parts supllier does not work then I will attempt to find some sort of parts interchangeability between Getrag models with "servicable" transmissions/transaxles.

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