Getrag 440/446 parts. - Page 51 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

maddog · 12-17-2004, 11:41 AM

i'm with them on this. hardly tranny fault more or less driver i'm guilty of killing 2nd and 3rd synchros too. getrag is also in the R34 skyline and our american piece of shit cavaliers

they seem to have both ends of the spectrum covered.

Bret Brinkmann · 12-20-2004, 09:44 AM

Yeah, most people don't seem to realize that Getrag didn't just pop up yesterday. Thay have been around a while. I had one member I was talking to mention how much they disliked these Getrag's and then they said they wanted a Viper. I asked if they wanted a newer Viper with the Borg-Warner transmission or one of the older Vipers with a Getrag. :P

mjannusch · 12-20-2004, 10:20 AM

True, but Getrag has made their share of mistakes along the way just as any other company has. BMW motorcycle gearboxes come to mind... No company is perfect.

Gatecrasher · 12-20-2004, 05:39 PM

The immortal Supra has the same Getrag as the R34 GT-R.

Porsche makes big use of Getrag gearboxes too.

As usual, I'd rather blame Mitsu by saying they didn't give Getrag enough time/money/support to build a proper unit

A/V dude · 12-20-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

The immortal Supra has the same Getrag as the R34 GT-R.

Porsche makes big use of Getrag gearboxes too.

As usual, I'd rather blame Mitsu by saying they didn't give Getrag enough time/money/support to build a proper unit

Bingo............

mjannusch · 12-20-2004, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

As usual, I'd rather blame Mitsu by saying they didn't give Getrag enough time/money/support to build a proper unit

Point taken...

DocEBrown · 12-22-2004, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

As usual, I'd rather blame Mitsu by saying they didn't give Getrag enough time/money/support to build a proper unit

Welcome to big business...

Anyhow, so the status on all other parts for the transaxles is all go? I need to get a full bearing and seal set for my rebuild and if I have to keep calling my buddy in Japan to get this stuff I'm gonna be pissed...

TypicalStateGuy · 12-22-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DocEBrown

Welcome to big business...

Anyhow, so the status on all other parts for the transaxles is all go? I need to get a full bearing and seal set for my rebuild and if I have to keep calling my buddy in Japan to get this stuff I'm gonna be pissed...

Yesterday I ordered ALL the bearings (holy crap they aren't cheap) the 1/2 inner and outer blocking rings and syncros, 3-6 blocking rings (syncros), the 1/2 shift fork, 1/2 syncro hub and sleeve, and output shaft seal for the low low cost of $1150

Fortunatly they had everything in stock, though

Apparently I broke the 1/2 shift fork in half and the half that broke off ate itself and ruined all the bearings. Guess that's why i had a hard shifting into 3rd at the track this year. All the blocking rings were baby smooth and the 1/2 syncro hub and sleeved came out in several pieces. My stepdad and rebuilder think that I wasn't the only driving the shit out of this thing. Guess that's why it refused to go into 1st even when I bought the thing. They also seem to think the GM Syncromesh is too thin and that exacerbated wear instead of warding it off.

Bret Brinkmann · 12-27-2004, 01:55 PM

I just switched from RED Line MTL to GM full synthetic Synchromesh just to see if they was much of a difference. There wasn't to tell the truth. Except for the price that is. Red Line is about three times as cheap. The Synchromesh did seem to help a little bit with my 2nd gear high RPM grinding but honestly, the difference is not large enough to warrent me spending the big bucks to put it in my tranny again. If any one needs Synchromesh to fix a grinding problem then they are just delaying the enevitable. Plus, Red Line is GL-4 and not GL-5 like Synchromesh. GL-4 is what the manual recommends and GL-5s decrease the life span of brass/bronze synchro material from what I remember.

fastmax · 12-27-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Brinkmann

I just switched from RED Line MTL to GM full synthetic Synchromesh just to see if they was much of a difference. There wasn't to tell the truth. Except for the price that is. Red Line is about three times as cheap

Ditto on the GM seceret sauce --- I tried it and there was no dectable difference in how the tranny felt or acted.

Jim Berry

12-17-2004, 11:41 AM	#501 (permalink)
maddog The New Super Pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: chicago suburbs / IA Drives: FASTER THAN VIPERS Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. i'm with them on this. hardly tranny fault more or less driver i'm guilty of killing 2nd and 3rd synchros too. getrag is also in the R34 skyline and our american piece of shit cavaliers they seem to have both ends of the spectrum covered. __________________ 93 Sandstone VR4 11.66 @ 117.48mph with Maddog Performance Engineering 13T's This weeks specials: CUSTOM RUBBER INTERCOOLER PIPING AT 50% OFF!!! 28 HOUR ENGINE REBUILD ONLY $700

12-20-2004, 09:44 AM	#502 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. Yeah, most people don't seem to realize that Getrag didn't just pop up yesterday. Thay have been around a while. I had one member I was talking to mention how much they disliked these Getrag's and then they said they wanted a Viper. I asked if they wanted a newer Viper with the Borg-Warner transmission or one of the older Vipers with a Getrag. :P __________________ When asked what the best thing to come out of Italy is, most Italians will tell you Ferrari.... But if you ask me it was Super Mario Brothers. 250 RWHP If you want the exploded views of both 5 and 6 speeds or pics e-mail me at SavagTiger@AOL.com. 94 VR-4 Panama Green Tan Interior RPS II, gutted cats, flipped BPV, 3SX control arms, 3SX shift bushings, Red Line, Auto-Meter. Rebuilt TC, transaxle, steering rack, heads, and turbos. 360cc's blue printened with in 1%. New short block. RWD convertion and welded rear end.

12-20-2004, 10:20 AM	#503 (permalink)
mjannusch Pro xfercase destroyer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hudson, WI Drives: 2005 Toyota Prius Trader Rating: (15)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. True, but Getrag has made their share of mistakes along the way just as any other company has. BMW motorcycle gearboxes come to mind... No company is perfect. __________________ -Matt '95 3000GT Spyder VR4 (11.838@117.56) '91 3000GT VR4 (Project for 2008)

12-20-2004, 05:39 PM	#504 (permalink)
Gatecrasher The Chaosbringer Join Date: Aug 1999 Drives: 81 Fiat Panda Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. The immortal Supra has the same Getrag as the R34 GT-R. Porsche makes big use of Getrag gearboxes too. As usual, I'd rather blame Mitsu by saying they didn't give Getrag enough time/money/support to build a proper unit

12-27-2004, 01:55 PM	#509 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. I just switched from RED Line MTL to GM full synthetic Synchromesh just to see if they was much of a difference. There wasn't to tell the truth. Except for the price that is. Red Line is about three times as cheap. The Synchromesh did seem to help a little bit with my 2nd gear high RPM grinding but honestly, the difference is not large enough to warrent me spending the big bucks to put it in my tranny again. If any one needs Synchromesh to fix a grinding problem then they are just delaying the enevitable. Plus, Red Line is GL-4 and not GL-5 like Synchromesh. GL-4 is what the manual recommends and GL-5s decrease the life span of brass/bronze synchro material from what I remember.

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